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Beginners => Family History Beginners Board => Topic started by: EllaLees on Saturday 16 July 22 11:26 BST (UK)
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Hello
I am trying to track down a death date/certificate for Elizabeth Smith but I have come to a dead end as to how to narrow it down. Can anyone help?
Elizabeth Jowitt, born 1886 Leeds, England married Tom Smith on 20th Nov 1915, Leeds England. They had 6 children Elsie, Willie, Ada, Tom, Alice & Clifford. Cliffords marriage certificate in 1942 notes his parents as Tom smith (deceased) & Elizabeth smith nee Jowitt. Leading to believe she is still alive in 1942. After that is a mystery.
Thanks Ella
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Cliffords marriage certificate in 1942
Where did he get married as the mother isn't usually mentioned on English certificates.
Do you know when her husband died and where Elizabeth was in 1939 register?
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I can only look at the free index for 1921, but it looks wrong to suggest that those kids are from the marriage in 1915. Wille (for instance) was b 1909?
if i'm delving into the correct 1921 entry in index Clifford was b 1920
Births Dec 1920 (>99%)
Smith Clifford Jowitt Bramley 9b 413
Pauline
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Thanks for your replies - Clifford was married in Scotland.
Tom died in 1931, Leeds, England. Apparently, the story is that Elizabeth and Tom married before he went to war, in case he was killed she'd officially get any benefits, so all their children except Clifford were born outside of the marriage.
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I did find an Elizabeth Smith in the 1939 registers in England with her daughter & son in law - Alice Elizabeth Lockwood and George Henry Lockwood - Married - Elizabeth as Widowed however her & Alice's birth years are out by bout 3-5 years
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Was the alice you mention in the first post registered as Alice Elizabeth? Smith or Jowitt?
what marriage did you find for George Henry Lockwood & Alice Elizabeth?
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Yes, Alice Elizabeth Smith B 1914 to Tom Smith and Elizabeth Jowitt….. Alice Elizabeth Smith and George Henry Lockwood married in 1939 Birmingham,England
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They also had Tom 1908 registered Hunslet died 1908 age 0
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Do you have the marriage certificate for Alice Elizabeth Smith to George Henry Lockwood?
The 1939 register has changed her name to Alison Elizabeth Lockwood and her death record also has that name and the same DOB as in the 1939 register.