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Old Photographs, Recognition, Handwriting Deciphering => Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs => Topic started by: ROSEPIP on Thursday 14 July 22 17:47 BST (UK)
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Hi , is it possible to date this photo
grandmother born 1876 and great grandad born 1844 and step mum born 1848
the reverse was written on by my mother stating it was grandmas 21 st birthday. that would have been 1897. i thought she looked too young in the photo
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I think both the clothing and the photo back look more late 1880s than 1890s.
Do you have any ancestors who might fit a late 1880s date?
Gadget
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HI
I am thinking perhaps grandma would have been in her teens on the photo that would be about between 1887 to 1894
it is genuinely my grandma with her step mum. her real mum died 1879
i have now found another photo of grandma also saying 21st birthday and she looks a lot older that he photo i have posted. i could try and post it but it is attached to glass so it might not scan
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I've PMed Carol to see if she can have a look too. Clothing is very much late 1880s.
I'll PM Jim as well.
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Hi
i have posted the other phot , but obviously it is waiting for the moderator to look at.
if she was 21 it would have been 1897
rose p
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Can you give the link to it on here and the link to this one on the other thread, otherwise you might get duplication of comments.
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Example of clothing style in late 1890s
http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~victorianphotographs/history/date/a1896.htm
and late 1880s
http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~victorianphotographs/history/date/a1888.htm
Also see the relevant section here
https://jayneshrimpton.co.uk/blog/how-to-date-old-photographs-from-fashion-part-1-victorian-studio-photographs/
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Re the photgraphic studios
https://birminghamhistory.co.uk/forum/index.php?threads/hudson-photography-shops.24115/
James Sunderland was a "photographic artist and fine art depository " at 67 bull St in 1874. By 1880 he had moved to 10, 50,51 Great Western Arcade, and was still there in 1884 (then also at 42 Booth st, handsworth). Sometime between then and 1888 it became Sunderland & Hudson, and they were that up to 1892. By 1895 they had disappeared. So picture would be between 1885 and 1894. If someone could toe down the wolves and dudley connection it might make it tighter.
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I would agree with Gadget, the young girl only looks to be around 14 years old or thereabouts, and she has her hair down. Young ladies generally only put there hair up when they were of marriageable age, around 17 or 18.
Carol
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Thanks everyone.
all of this has been really interesting.and i love the website for dating clothes.
i have been researching my mums side of the family since she died in 1998 , before the internet had any sort of facility to research. it was a lot more difficult then. also i have no relatives alive to ask so have relied on photos and lists my mum made back in 1980 with names and dates of births. a real gold mine.
as they say you are never to old to learn , and now being in my late seventies it certainly is true.
thanks again
Rose Pippard
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Hi Rose, I gave it a clean for you as it is really worth preserving, but kept the age to it.
Carol
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That is superb, Carol 8)
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Hi Judy, how nice of you to say, thank you, it's very much appreciated. Hope you and your Family are all ok :-*
Carol
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I am sure that the OP will be absolutely thrilled with it! :D
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hi treetotal
what a fantastic surprise , i did not really expect that.
i really appreciate it.
this site never fails to surprise me.
i became a member way back in 2004 when in its infancy and found lots of contacts
keep up the good work
thanks again
to you and everyone
Rose
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You are very welcome Rose and I am pleased that you like the result. I think the young girl is stood on something. :D
Carol