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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Roscommon => Topic started by: zylar22 on Saturday 09 July 22 04:23 BST (UK)
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Hello
I am trying to track down my great great grandmothers family in Ireland.
Her name was Margaret Cahalan born 1871 in Bradford, England.
Her mother was Bridget Cahalan born around 1840 in Ireland.
In the 1871 English census Margaret and Bridget are listed as living with John and Bridget Sharkey. Bridget Cahalan is listed as their niece. I have been able to work out that that Bridget Sharkey was born Cahalan in approx 1818 in Tibohine, Roscommon.
I am presuming that Bridget (born 1840) married one of Bridget's Sharkey's siblings children. Bridget (born 1840) married a Michael Cahalan. I do not have their marriage certificate, his name was listed on his daughter Margaret's marriage certificate.
The 1871 English census also lists Bridget as a Widow and at this point Margaret is only 6 months old so Michael must have died around 1870-71 presumably in Bradford.
The closest I can get to a marriage for Bridget and Michael is a marriage between Michael Cahill and Bridget Battle in 1863 in Bradford, Yorkshire. There is a Michael Cahill that dies in 1871 in Bradford as well. If this is their marriage I also wonder if they had other children.
I have been looking for ages and was wondering if anyone could see a link between Michael Cahalan (born in Ireland, but birth year unknown) and Bridget Sharkey nee Cahalan??
Thank you for your help.
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I have been able to work out that that Bridget Sharkey was born Cahalan in approx 1818 in Tibohine, Roscommon.
Here's the townland of Tibohine in Tibohine civil parish.
https://www.townlands.ie/roscommon/frenchpark/tibohine/buckill/tibohine/
Birth and marriage records only go back as far as January 1833 in Tibohine RC parish.
https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0558
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Is the name Calahan/Callaghan and various other spellings or Cahalan ie perhaps spoken Callan/Cullen/Carne or Caalan? You are using it interchangeably.
Could you let us know what the most recent spelling if the name is please.
This website
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/
is good to find BDM, also Family Search
ETA I am also getting a little confused about the names and when you are using maiden names and when you are using married names
Is it Bridget Calahan Sharkey born 1818 in Tibohine Co Roscommon
married
John Sharkey when and where?
Bridget ms? born 1840? Ireland
married where and when????
Died when and where??
Michael Calahan born ????? where
died 1871
Margaret Calahan born 1871 Bradford England
married
died
If you could fill the gaps that would be great.
Have you checked later censuses?
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FamilySearch - Ireland
https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/list/?fcs=placeId%3A1927084&ec=region%3AUNITED_KINGDOM_IRELAND%2CplaceId%3A1927084
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I always have a quick squizz at the 1901/11 census and any earlier ones. The 1901/11 I look carefully at the ages, names, locations of the oldest ones.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/
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Looking at the 1901 census there are Callaghans in Co Roscommon including in Tibohine and also Sharkeys in Co Roscommon.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Roscommon/Buckhill/Tibohine/1666505/
Judging by my family's use of the word niece and cousin etc it may not be clearcut that this is an aunt/niece or uncle/niece relationship. Some parts of my family called anyone who was family who met the usual 'rules' between generations as niece/cousin even though they may have been more complicated relationships as second cousins, first cousins once removed etc.
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John Sharkey - Tybohen, Tibohine CP
http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/results.jsp?surname=Sharkey&firstname=&county=Roscommon&parish=Tibohine&townland=&search=Search
http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/reels/tab//004625725/004625725_00339.pdf
Callaghan
http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/results.jsp?surname=callaghan&firstname=&county=Roscommon&parish=Tibohine&townland=&search=Search
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in 1861 Bridget and John Sharkey appear in the England census both born in Ireland as is a son Luke Sharkey. A later son Thomas aged 3 is born in England
From FS
In 1881 census Bridget is still alive birth is stated to be 1821. She has Luke and his family with her.
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There is this birth (nearest I can see)
December quarter 1870 Bradford
Margaret Carlin mmn Cummings
Also this birth
December quarter 1857 Bradford
Thomas Sharkey mmn Cahalin
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Check out the Sharkey and Callaghan entries in Griffiths Valuation which was taken in 1857.
https://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml
Sharkey
https://www.rootschat.com/links/01roi/
Callaghan
https://www.rootschat.com/links/01rok/
KG
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There is also a birth and death 1867, Bradford
Birth Catherine Cahelin mmn Cummins
Death Catherine Cahalin
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“The closest I can get to a marriage for Bridget and Michael is a marriage between Michael Cahill and Bridget Battle in 1863 in Bradford, Yorkshire. There is a Michael Cahill that dies in 1871 in Bradford as well. If this is their marriage I also wonder if they had other children.”
Have you checked this couple? There is also a Bridget Cummins on the same page.
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This Tibohine baptism looks good - worth noting
25th July 1838
Michael Callaghan - parents Luke and Mary Morrisroe
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633965#page/71/mode/1up
The birth fits with that death age in 1871
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I have been able to work out that that Bridget Sharkey was born Cahalan in approx 1818 in Tibohine, Roscommon.
How did you work this out please?
The Sharkeys are in Bradford in 1851 - only Luke b Ireland from their children.
1851 2308/377/7
Have you found a baptism for him in Ireland?
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There is this birth (nearest I can see)
December quarter 1870 Bradford
Margaret Carlin mmn Cummings
Also this birth
December quarter 1857 Bradford
Thomas Sharkey mmn Cahalin
Didn't sound it out further.....
Carlin
of course!
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This Tibohine baptism looks good - worth noting
25th July 1838
Michael Callaghan - parents Luke and Mary Morrisroe
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633965#page/71/mode/1up
The birth fits with that death age in 1871
There s also a baptism - 31st August 1837
Michael to John Callaghan and Catherine Dyer
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There is this birth (nearest I can see)
December quarter 1870 Bradford
Margaret Carlin mmn Cummings
Also this birth
December quarter 1857 Bradford
Thomas Sharkey mmn Cahalin
Thank you very much for this.
How are you able to tell the mmn?
I am having a look through everything now I have a day off work!!
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I have been able to work out that that Bridget Sharkey was born Cahalan in approx 1818 in Tibohine, Roscommon.
How did you work this out please?
It is the closest I have been able to get... some of the names are a bit different though.... but it is the best I have been able to come up with so far:
In the 1861 census Bridget Sharkey was 43 so this puts her birth around 1818.
A Brigittam Cahalan was born in 1818 in Tibohine to Jacobi Cahalan and Margarittae Carty.
Luke Sharkey (Bridget's first child) was born around 1848 in Ireland.
Brigida Conahgan married Joannes Sharkey on 28 January 1848 in Ireland.
Your locating of the Thomas Sharkey mmn Cahalin born 1857 Bradford, also makes me feel like I am heading in the right direction as this is the year her son Thomas was estimated to have been born.
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The Sharkeys are in Bradford in 1851 - only Luke b Ireland from their children.
1851 2308/377/7
Have you found a baptism for him in Ireland?
No I haven't been able to find a baptism for Luke.
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Is the name Calahan/Callaghan and various other spellings or Cahalan ie perhaps spoken Callan/Cullen/Carne or Caalan? You are using it interchangeably.
Could you let us know what the most recent spelling if the name is please.
The most recent spelling was Cahalin.
Is it Bridget Calahan Sharkey born 1818 in Tibohine Co Roscommon
married
John Sharkey when and where? I was able to locate a Brigida Conaghan marrying a Joannes Sharkey on 28 january 1848.
Bridget ms? born 1840? Ireland This date is estimated from censuses.
married where and when???? Unsure but I was able to locate a Bridget Battle marrying a Michael Cahill in Bradford in September 1863. This is also the possibility that he could have married Bridget Cummins as she is on the same entry. 9b pg 233
Died when and where?? Have been unable to work this out, but I would presume Bradford.
Michael Calahan born ????? where I am unsure where he was born.
died 1871 I have estimated 1871 because on the 1871 census Bridget is listed as a widow and Margaret is 6 months old. So he must have died around the time of her birth.
Margaret Calahan born 1871 Bradford England
married Married 1891 to John Baxter in Bradford.
died March 1955 in Bradford.
If you could fill the gaps that would be great.
Have you checked later censuses? Yes. I am able to find all the records on Margaret Cahalin once she becomes a Baxter. The last time I can find her mother is 1891 census just before Margaret marries. She still has the name Cahalin so has not remarried.
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“The closest I can get to a marriage for Bridget and Michael is a marriage between Michael Cahill and Bridget Battle in 1863 in Bradford, Yorkshire. There is a Michael Cahill that dies in 1871 in Bradford as well. If this is their marriage I also wonder if they had other children.”
Have you checked this couple? There is also a Bridget Cummins on the same page.
I will look into Bridget Cummins especially since you were able to identify Cummings as mmn on the Margaret Carlin birth in Bradford 1870. I have been unable to find a birth record for Margaret to date.
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There is also a birth and death 1867, Bradford
Birth Catherine Cahelin mmn Cummins
Death Catherine Cahalin
Another good lead. Thank you
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This site helps with mother’s maiden names in England
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp
It is free but you need to log in and then go to search the GRO indexes.
You can order a pdf of a record for, I think, £7 which is cheaper than a copy.
You have the possible records:
Margaret’s birth
Michael’s death
Which should help to confirm these events.
The marriage of Michael and Bridget would give you a father’s name too and the witness names might be useful.
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In the 1861 census Bridget Sharkey was 43 so this puts her birth around 1818.
A Brigittam Cahalan was born in 1818 in Tibohine to Jacobi Cahalan and Margarittae Carty.
Luke Sharkey (Bridget's first child) was born around 1848 in Ireland.
Brigida Conahgan married Joannes Sharkey on 28 January 1848 in Ireland.
That marriage took place in Donaghmore, Derry. February 28th 1848
It is difficult to read but note the marriage above also.
You have Francis Gallagher and Catherine Conaghan.
John Sharkey and Bridget Conaghan are witnesses to that marriage and vice versa.
There is mention of ‘Glasgow’ for Catherine but not sure what it means. Perhaps someone can help.
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633031#page/98/mode/1up
In 1851 2308/377/7
Luke is 4 yrs old - so a birth 1846/7.
In 1861 he is 14 yrs old but then his age does vary.
I have just looked for baptisms in Donaghmore and there is this:
Catherine Sharkey 3rd May 1851 to John and Bridget Conaghan.
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633031#page/40/mode/1up
I would say that the marriage you have is the wrong couple. You have your family in Bradford in 1851.
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I forgot to mention that the marriage of Michael and Bridget would give you his father’s name which might help.
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There is this birth (nearest I can see)
December quarter 1870 Bradford
Margaret Carlin mmn Cummings
Just got the GRO PDF on this birth and it is the correct one!! Thank you so much!!
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That’s good to hear. :)