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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Antrim => Topic started by: DonnaMarie1982 on Friday 08 July 22 00:47 BST (UK)
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Hello all,
I am visiting Ballynure Graveyard to see the stones I know are there of the Clements family of Clements Hill.
I've been trying to find if the records for the old church (I believe long since gone) still exist anywhere?
I am trying to pin down information on my ancestor Andrew Clements of Clements Hill who I believe dies 1718 and is referenced in book -The history and antiquities of the county of the town of Carrickfergus, etc By Samuel MACSKIMIN.
Many thanks,
Donna
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Hello DonnaMarie,
The book “Old Families of Carrickfergus and Ballynure. Gravestone Inscriptions” includes Ballynure Old Graveyard in the townland of Toberdowney, parish of Ballynure.
There are five entries In the Ballynure Old Graveyard for Clements, one mentioned is under the name of Philips. Unfortunately, the only Andrew Clements is an Andrew who was lost at sea in May 1852 aged 22 years.
Another Rootschatter may be able to help you with your search.
Regards,
KiwiRose.
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Thank you Kiwirose :)
I'm trying to track down the original parish registers in case the stones had gone by the 1800s as I'm trying to pin down the family in the 1600 / early 1700s and it looks like they were using the church at Ballynure.
I just cant find any trace of the records and was hoping someone might be able to enlighten me - I suspect with the church itself being gone and so many records being lost to fire it may be that there are none still existing for this church but it would be nice to rule out as a line of research.
Donna xx
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Do any of these assist your research:
Surname(s) Graveyard Civil Parish Graveyard Location County
CLEMENTS, ELLIS; Carrickfergus CI Carrickfergus Carrickfergus Antrim
Gravestone Inscription Here lyeth the body of Henry Clements of Strade Esq aged 52 years who departed this life the 2d day of November 1696 being then Mayor of Carrickfergus
Comment [Recorded in McSkimin: History and Antiquities of Carrickfergus [1811] p 43 as 'slab on the floor near pulpit' but it was lost by 1909] [The Clements family, who settled locally in the early seventeenth century, held a modest estate at Straid acquired from John Dalway of Bellahill in 1609 [PRONI D1905/2/153B] In the late eighteenth century the estate passed to Henry Clements Ellis of Prospect, Carrickfergus and subsequently to his daughter Jane Anne Clements Nicholay The Clements and Ellis families were prominent in the corporate life of Carrickfergus throughout the later seventeenth and eighteenth centuries See PRONI , Adair Papers D3860; McCrum ed of McSkimin: History and Antiquities of Carrickfergus [1909] pp 418-9 [Clements family] and 478-82 [Ellis family] See also Ballynure Old Graveyard.]
Surname(s) Graveyard Civil Parish Graveyard Location County
CLEMENTS Ballynure Old Ballynure Toberdowney Antrim
Gravestone Inscription Here lyeth the body of Frances Clements aged 82 years 1812 .
Surname(s) Graveyard Civil Parish Graveyard Location County
CLEMENTS Ballynure Old Ballynure Toberdowney Antrim
Gravestone Inscription In memory of Mary Clements, the beloved wife of Wm Clements, who departed this life on 5th March 1867 aged 63 years And an infant son Also her son Andrew who was lost at sea in May 1852 aged 22 years Also the above-named Wm Clements who died 16th March 1882 aged 76 years .
Surname(s) Graveyard Civil Parish Graveyard Location County
CLEMENTS, DALLVAY, ELLIS, NICOLEY Ballynure Old Ballynure Toberdowney Antrim
Gravestone Inscription Here lyeth the body of Ellinor, the wife of Edward Clements of Mulligan-Hill gent and eldest daughter of Alexander DALLVAY of Bally Hill Esqr , who departed this life the 3th day of March 1628 aged 35 years This tablet to mark the burying place of the ELLIS family of Straid & Prospect was placed here by direction of their last representative Jane Anne Clements NICOLEY in July 1884 Tablet in opposite pillar has been placed there for safety
Comment Two tablets (Castle Espie limestone and sandstone) flank the sealed entrance of a basalt vault. Captain Robert Ellis obtained a burgess share in the 1606 division of Carrickfergus lands. He had three sons John, Edmond and Henry. Edmond was Provost-Marshall under Sir Henry Dockwra and had five sons: Foulk, Edmond, Francis, Anthony, and Henry, who were all active in the military struggles of the civil wars. Edmond was governor of Carrickfergus in 1649. Henry served as a major under the Commonwealth, acquired lands in Leinster, and had four sons: Henry, Francis, Hercules, and Edward, of whom the eldest (Henry) married Sarah, daughter of Edward Clements, Straid, and was Sovereign of Belfast 1717, 1720, and 1722. Francis settled at Prospect and married Anne, another daughter of Edward Clements. They had two sons, Henry and Hercules. Hercules was the mayor of Carrickfergus in 1770 and 1774 He married Catherine Barry, a granddaughter of Sir Robert Adair, but left no children. The elder brother Henry was mayor 1754-57 and again in 1773. He married Eleanor, daughter of Waterhouse Crymble of Clements Hill. They had three daughters: Millicent, who married Charles Adair of Loughanmore in 1775; Nancy, who married Rev Dr C Benning; and Mary who did not marry. Their only son Henry Clements Ellis inherited Straidland on the death of his uncle Edward Crymble, and married Jane, daughter of William Burleigh of Dublin, who died in 1795 without surviving children. His second wife was Jane, a daughter of James Craig of Carrickfergus [q v ] and their daughter Jane married firstly Duncan Wilson, and secondly Christian William. [Nicolay See McCrum ed of McSkimin: History and Antiquities of Carrickfergus (1909)]
Surname(s) Graveyard Civil Parish Graveyard Location County
CLEMENTS, McCURDY, SIMM Ballynure Old Ballynure Toberdowney Antrim
Gravestone Inscription Erected by Mary McCURDY in memory of her husband Henry Clements who died on the 2nd March 1831 aged 75 years The above-named Henry Clements' first wife Martha SIMM died the 9th July 1800 aged 48 years .
Comment [Red sandstone next to Mary Clements who died in 1867]
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Hi Sam!
Thank you I have the graveyard inscriptions, its the parish records I was trying to track down.
Donna :)