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Title: Julia Fouldes in Sheffield
Post by: emjayf on Wednesday 06 July 22 10:26 BST (UK)
Hello all,

I am curious if any local Sheffield newspapers would have reported about the death of Julia Fouldes (born 1883 died 1889)? I know so little about this relative - she could be one of the many nameless photographs I have and will sadly never find out.

I haven't really seen many newspaper reports of any of my Fouldes relatives so am curious what exists for Sheffield.

Thank you
MJ
Title: Re: Julia Fouldes in Sheffield
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 06 July 22 12:37 BST (UK)
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(born 1883 died 1889)

She was only 6yrs old and if she died of natural causes it's probably unlikely there would be an obit/article. 

If she died other than by natural causes - it's more likely

Do you have her death cert?
Title: Re: Julia Fouldes in Sheffield
Post by: emjayf on Wednesday 06 July 22 12:44 BST (UK)
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Do you have her death cert?

I don't sadly. It was only a thought out-loud after some people had recently shared newspaper reports of other family members. I didn't really know what sort of things got reported in them.

I mean now I think about it if they reported every Victorian child mortality case the paper would probably be full just of that!

Does anyone else also have a ton of family photos but no clue as to who they are - and with noone to ask? I could just throw them but I can't bear the thought of them being destroyed!

Thanks any how!

MJ
Title: Re: Julia Fouldes in Sheffield
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 06 July 22 12:53 BST (UK)
Did you know they had another child who died?

FOULDES, HERBERT   mmn     OATES     
GRO Reference: 1897  June Quarter in ECCLESALL BIERLOW  Volume 09C  Page 467

Deaths September qtr 1898   
Fouldes    Herbert    1    Ecclesall B. 9c   247

1911 entry shows 3 deceased
Title: Re: Julia Fouldes in Sheffield
Post by: emjayf on Wednesday 06 July 22 13:06 BST (UK)
Did you know they had another child who died?

FOULDES, HERBERT   mmn     OATES     
GRO Reference: 1897  June Quarter in ECCLESALL BIERLOW  Volume 09C  Page 467

Deaths September qtr 1898   
Fouldes    Herbert    1    Ecclesall B. 9c   247

1911 entry shows 3 deceased

Yes I found that one. On the 1911 census it stated they had 6 children plus 2 that had died. I had found Herbert before that but it did confirm that he seemed to be their child.

The other child was I think Harry who was born in 1888 and died 1889 (buried the 3rd January that year).

What I note that she had a child these years 1883, 1884, 1888, 1890, 1892, 1893, 1895, 1897. That is heavy going and I wonder about the four year gap between 1884-1888 seen as she seemed to have a child most years. I wonder if she suffered many miscarriages?  Whatever the case 8 children in in 14 years is some going!

Thanks again
MJ

Title: Re: Julia Fouldes in Sheffield
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 06 July 22 13:21 BST (UK)
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On the 1911 census it stated they had 6 children plus 2 that had died

1911 says 8 born - 5 alive - 3 deceased

I can see the birth reg for Harry on freebmd in Sept qtr 1888 but GRO online are not showing any match when you do a maiden name search
Title: Re: Julia Fouldes in Sheffield
Post by: emjayf on Wednesday 06 July 22 15:31 BST (UK)


1911 says 8 born - 5 alive - 3 deceased

I can see the birth reg for Harry in Sept qtr 1888 but GRO online are not showing any match when you do a maiden name search
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I was once told the burial details were 3 January 1889 at Burngreave Cemetery, Sheffield.  But you are right I cannot find Harry's death on the free BMD database either?! That is very odd. I tried spelling it both Fouldes and Foulds!

Wonder where he is?

FYI 5 alive:
James
John
Frank
Edith
George

3 dead:
Julia
Herbert
And the elusive Harry!

Thanks
MJ

Title: Re: Julia Fouldes in Sheffield
Post by: Gibel on Wednesday 06 July 22 16:56 BST (UK)
Deleted as just seen the same info was given in 2020
Title: Re: Julia Fouldes in Sheffield
Post by: emjayf on Wednesday 06 July 22 22:41 BST (UK)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2VSR-W5S

That is probably Harry. They listed him as "Haryy". I suppose without a death certificate I cannot check for sure but that seems quite likely.  I still can't find him on the Free BMD - even knowing these details! Funny how fussy they can be!

There we go!

Thanks all
MJ
Title: Re: Julia Fouldes in Sheffield
Post by: emjayf on Thursday 07 July 22 11:30 BST (UK)
I just found another Harry Fouldes, born in 1894 and also in Ecclesall Bierlow, Yorkshire
(Details below). Now I know it isn't the Harry I mentioned before but seen as the name is spelled "Fouldes" with an E and not the more common "Foulds" with no E, I wonder if he is a relative? Is that something I can tell without a birth certificate?

Thanks
MJ

PS details:

Registration District   Ecclesall Bierlow
Event Type   Birth Registration
Page   406
Volume   9C
Affiliate Line Number   230
Registration Quarter   Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration Year   1894
Title: Re: Julia Fouldes in Sheffield
Post by: Comberton on Thursday 07 July 22 13:23 BST (UK)
Birth
Harry Fouldes
Jan 1894
Ecclesall Bierlow
9c 406
mmn Hadfield

Baptism
1894 Sheffield
parents George & Mary

Marriage
April 1893 Sheffield
George Fouldes & Mary Hadfield

1901  census Harry as grandson in Sheffield with James (wheelwright) & Sarah, both born Oxton, Nottinghamshire.

1881 census in Sheffield, James (wheelwright) and Sarah plus George 1872 and Samuel 1875 born Bramcote, Nottinghamshire. Bramcote is in Shardlow registration district. George Fouldes birth reg 1872 Shardlow mmn Gibson.

Baptism for George in Bramcote 1872 parents James & Sarah

Father on marriage of John Gibson Fouldes is James , carpenter and for George  father is James, wheelwright so are John Gibson Fouldes & George Fouldes brothers?
Title: Re: Julia Fouldes in Sheffield
Post by: emjayf on Thursday 07 July 22 13:51 BST (UK)
Birth
Harry Fouldes
Jan 1894
Ecclesall Bierlow
9c 406
mmn Hadfield

Baptism
1894 Sheffield
parents George & Mary

Marriage
April 1893 Sheffield
George Fouldes & Mary Hadfield

1901  census Harry as grandson in Sheffield with James (wheelwright) & Sarah, both born Oxton, Nottinghamshire.

1881 census in Sheffield, James (wheelwright) and Sarah plus George 1872 and Samuel 1875 born Bramcote, Nottinghamshire. Bramcote is in Shardlow registration district. George Fouldes birth reg 1872 Shardlow mmn Gibson.

Baptism for George in Bramcote 1872 parents James & Sarah

Father on marriage of John Gibson Fouldes is James , carpenter and for George  father is James, wheelwright so are John Gibson Fouldes & George Fouldes brothers?

Ahh yes!! I forgot about that branch! Yep Harry is Henry Fouldes, son of the first John Gibson and Sarah - brother of the second John Gibson.  I did already know that but with so many names the same - and not having looked at it for a while - I got muddled!  Thank you again!!

MJ