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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Lanarkshire => Topic started by: Genie24 on Saturday 25 June 22 15:47 BST (UK)
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I am trying to help my cousin find some information about his grandmother's sister. His grandmother was Grace Frame Ross born 5th October 1900 Hamilton, Lanarkshire. He knew she had 2 siblings because they lived in New York for a while and they show up on the 1910 census. He believed she had a sister Irene W Ross and brother Andrew F Ross as they are recorded on the census but could not find their births. We speculated that the F was Frame. However, just a few days ago, I found births for Jeanie Whiteford Ross and Andrew Thomson Ross who we now know are indeed the siblings evidenced by the birth records. Sadly, Andrew died aged just 19 and single so we know there are no children from him but we are desperately trying to find some children for Jeanie.
My cousin always thought that 'Irene' stayed in USA and died in California but it looks like the leads were a red herring. I found a marriage for her to Charles Burnet Hay Reid born 1897 in Hamilton. They married in 1935 in Blantyre. Charles was recorded as being a Master Printer as was his father. He does not appear in Post Office Directories. We have a potential electoral Roll for them in Glasgow in 1937 in Westmuir Street or Valuation Roll records for 1935 and 1940 living at 34 Stonefield Crescent, Blantyre, Lanarkshire where they married. This was a stone's throw from where Jeanie lived in 109 Stonefield Road.
There is, of course, the possibility that they left the country.
Charles had once been a Merchant Seaman and I have details of a medal awarded to him. The strange thing is, he was actually recorded as Charles Hay Reid on his birth record and then it appears that he at some point 'acquired' the Burnet but then dropped both the Burnet and Hay which is making him impossible to find.
Any help would be very much appreciated.
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What was the name of Grace, Jeanie and Andrew's mother? Have you tried looking in the deaths index at SP for a death of J*an*, born whatever year plus or minus say 3 years, and mother's maiden surname?
What was the name of Charles' mother? Have you tried looking in the deaths index at SP for a death of Charles, born 1897 plus or minus say 3 years, and mother's maiden surname?
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Yes, I have already tried that. That is how I found the death for Andrew.
Grace, Jeanie and Andrew's mother was Harris and Charles' mother was Hay.
There are several births for Reid in Blantyre. I think I put in a search for 1935 - 1955 but the problem is, the Statutory Registers do no give a mother's maiden name. Often the deaths do but not always.
If the 1937 Electoral Roll is correct, then the births would be in Glasgow and that widens the search even more.
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There are several births for Reid in Blantyre. I think I put in a search for 1935 - 1955 but the problem is, the Statutory Registers do no give a mother's maiden name. Often the deaths do but not always.
Originally none of the indexes included mother's maiden surname.
In 1929 they started adding the mmn to the births index, but because of the 100-year closure rule you can only search using this if you are in a Scotland's People Centre.
In 1973 they started including mmn in the deaths index.
They have been adding mmn to the deaths index for a while, but the process speeded up a lot during lockdown. I expect they will go on doing this until all deaths are covered, and then they'll go back and start adding mmn to the earlier births.
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That is very interesting to know and good to hear that soon more mother's maiden names will be available to view.
Unfortunately, we do not live near a Scotland's People Centre.
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For information The 1910 new york census
https://www.familysearch.org/search/ark:/61903/1:1:M5SM-ZNC
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Thanks. We already have the 1910 US census. That is how we have been pursuing an Irene rather than a Jeanie. It is possible that she may have used that name.
We estimate that they went to the US around 1905 and returned some time after the 1911 census as they don't appear to be on that. My cousin's grandmother married in 1925.
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Robert Ross married Agnes P Harris, 1900, Blytheswood.
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Thanks for that. They were married in Blytheswood but all of the children were born in Hamilton. Agnes Paterson Harris died in Blantyre in 1937. Jeanie married in their house in 1935.
The thing we need to know is where did they go after their marriage and did they have children.
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Could be a red herring, but with mention of Reid, printer, and Blantyre, posting following link in case it ties in somewhere:
https://blantyreproject.com/2017/11/jr-reid-printers-blantyre/
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Thank you so much. That is definitely food for thought. We are looking into the Reid Printing business. I am sure there is something in that.
In the meantime, I found Robert Ross returning from New York to Glasgow on the 17th August 1912. H e lists his wife Agnes as a contact living at 99 Bent Road which is where the Hays were living. So I think the family returned to Scotland before him.
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Another potential red herring warning, but there was a May Hay Reid at 67 Bent Road Hamilton in 1943, according to a mention in a newspaper.
Possibly this death:
REID
MARY HAY
49
1948
647/ 42
Hamilton
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The Bent Cemetery Burial Records show the following, which may be useful:
REID, Mary H , age 48, Date of Burial 30 January 1948, 67 Bent St, Hamilton
REID, Mary Elizabeth age 83, Date of Burial 3 Dec 1940, 67 Bent St, Hamilton
ROSS, Robert, age 73, Date of Burial 15 March 1946, 18 Downie St, Hamilton
ROSS, Andrew T, age 19, Date of Burial 7 Dec 1923, Western Infirmary, Glasgow
ROSS, Jessie Thomson, age 21, Date of Burial 19 Sept 1899, Burnblea St, Hamilton
I had a look at the death certificate for Robert Ross, who is indeed your Robert.
Robert Ross, Plumber (Journeyman), widower of Agnes Paterson Harris, Found dead in bed at 7:25 am (Last seen alive March Twelfth 10:00 am), 18 Downie St, Hamilton. His parents are cited as Andrew Ross, Colliery Engine Keeper, and Jane Ross (maiden surname Whiteford). The cause of death was cardiovascular degeneration. The informant was J. W. R. Reid, daughter.
Cheers,
Rodeo
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Possibly other Ross relations:
ROSS, James Whiteford, age 28, Date of Burial 21 July 1896, Kinross
ROSS, Jane, age 52, Date of Burial 4 March 1898, Burnblea St, Hamilton
Cheers,
Rodeo
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Your Charles Hay Reid died on 12 June 1952, his death having been registered in Stonehouse.
Charles Hay Reid, Printer (Master), married to Jean Whiteford Ross, died at County Hospital, Stonehouse (usual residence 18 Downie St, Hamilton). His parents are cited as William Reid, Letterpress Printer, and Mary Elizabeth Reid (maiden surname Hay). The cause of death was sclerosis and bronchopneumonia. The informant was Barbara Reid, sister, 67 Bent Road Hamilton.
Cheers,
Rodeo
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REID
JEANIE
BULLOCH
JOHN KAY R
1952
647/ 190
Hamilton
No middle initial and not indexed under Ross, but leaving here anyway in case it links somewhere.
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An interesting newspaper snippet for 67 Bent Road, from Nov 1944:
. Capt. Wm Reid, ship's master, 67 Bent Road, Hamilton, has been awarded Lloyd's War Medal for his part in attempting to save his ship from sinking following attack by enemy aircraft In November 1943,
Then later that month
. Captain William Reid, whose home is at 67 Bent Road. Hamilton, has been awarded the O.B.E.
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Going back to start of thread and mention of California, FindMyPast have an index entry for a Jeanie Reid, born Scotland 17 June 1901, dying in California 1972. Is this who your relatives were considering?
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Going back to start of thread and mention of California, FindMyPast have an index entry for a Jeanie Reid, born Scotland 17 June 1901, dying in California 1972. Is this who your relatives were considering?
www.findagrave.com
Jeanie F Reid
Birth date 17/6/1901
Paisley Renfrewshire
Death 10 November 1972
Cypress lawn Memorial Park
California
Rosie
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Going back to start of thread and mention of California, FindMyPast have an index entry for a Jeanie Reid, born Scotland 17 June 1901, dying in California 1972. Is this who your relatives were considering?
www.findagrave.com
Jeanie F Reid
Birth date 17/6/1901
Paisley Renfrewshire
Death 10 November 1972
Cypress lawn Memorial Park
California
Rosie
Helpful in ruling her out.
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Yes looks like that's her married name
Rosie
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A bit more on Jeanie - 1929 Nursing application:
Name
Jean Whiteford Ross
Birth
22 Mar 1902
Civil
1929
Residence
1929 Blantyre, Glasgow
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Wow! We are certainly beginning to get a better picture of this family.
I forgot to say that the death for Jeanie in California that my cousin had turned out not to be her as Ross was her married name. Also, the birth was incorrect. Jeanie was born on the 22nd March 1902. We have her birth certificate.
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I now know that both Jeanie Whiteford Ross and Charles Hay Reid probably never left Hamilton.The Valuation Roll and Electoral Roll records my cousin and I found were not correct. I found them on the Valuation Rolls in 1935 and 1940 living at 18 Downie Street Hamilton. I think they must have been living there since their marriage and Jeanie's father moved in with them after her mother died. He died there in in 1946 and Charles in 1952.
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My cousin and I are attempting to leave no stone unturned and looking at all possibilities in the search for Jeanie Whiteford Reid nee Ross.
We have abandoned the search for a connection to the J.R Reid printing company in Blantyre. This was originally started off by John Robertson Reid at 317 Glasgow Road which later moved to 109 Glasgow Road. One of the more recent directors was John Robertson Reid, who I believe is his son born 1948 Blantyre. The company was later renamed Gavin Watson and Reid but is now Gavin Watson Limited at the same premises. We cannot find a connection to Charles Hay Reid and his father who were both Master Printers. As far as I know, they were the only family members with that occupation as his grandfather was a teacher.
We have also ruled out the possible remarriage of Jeanie to John Kay Rae Bulloch in 1852, the same year as her husband's death. I completely overlooked the fact that this John Kay Rae was born in 1928 and aged 24 when he married. Jeanie would be aged 50! There are two other Jeanie Reids born in Hamilton in that time frame. One in 1933 and the other in 1934. Both of these are before Jeanie's marriage but not impossible that one of them is her daughter.
I think our main hope is to try and trace Charles Hay Reid's burial in 1852 but it seems that the burial records only cover from 1850 to 1949. I feel sure that Jeanie must be buried with him as there are other members of the Ross Family buried there. Does anyone know how we can get this information?
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Jeanie whiteford Reid is certainly a hard person to find I have tried searching without a surname or other different variations ??? .Regarding the Marriage to a John Kay Bulloch in 1952 to a Jeanie Reid there is a possibility this Jeanie died 1999 age 65 mothers maiden name Paton I see a tree on Ancestry has added this marriage without checking have you tried looking at newspapers to see if a death is mentioned for Charles Hay Ray which might give details of his funeral
Rosie
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Yes, I saw the Jeanie Reid death with mother Paton. The age ties in with the births I found in Hamilton so she can definitely be ruled out.
I don't have a specific Newspaper subscription but nothing appears to be there on Find My Past or British Newspaper Archive. I don't know where else to look.
Another possibility, we are considering is that she may have left Scotland to be near her sister Grace Frame Blair nee Ross in London.
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Yes I did think that as well that she moved to be near her sister I don't think she remained in Scotland as nothing else is showing on S P just her birth and marriage .
As mentioned before a Scotland's People centre would be the place to visit to check for births for the couple ..No wills either to be found
Rosie
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Probate 1948, London, Jeanie or Jane Reid or Blair.
Beneficiary: Elizabeth Gould Purvis
https://www.familysearch.org/search/ark:/61903/1:1:7XXQ-RMW2
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That is very curious and worth looking into. I checked for a death registration and the only one I could find was Jane M Reid died September quarter aged 78 which doesn't fit.
1948 was before her husband's death in 1952 but maybe she left him and that is why his sister was the informant and not her.
The Blair alternative surname is also curious as her maiden name was Ross but her sister, Grace's married name was Blair. She could have changed her name. I have come across this before and I suppose anything is possible.
The beneficiary's name Elizabeth Gould Purvis doesn't mean anything to us either.
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An Elizabeth Gould Purvis died Eastwood, 1968, age 72. I assume this was the beneficiary.
Her maiden name was Blair
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Many thanks. I am looking into it.
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I think this is the death for that Jeanie Reid or Blair on that probate record died Renfrewshire
Scotland's People
Jane Park Reid other name Blair
Died 1948 aged 83 years
Busby Renfrewshire
Rosie
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Thanks. Yes, I think we can rule her out.
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Another brick in the wall????
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Another brick in the wall????
Don't think we are going to knock them down she is hiding well ???I
Rosie
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1948 was before her husband's death in 1952 but maybe she left him and that is why his sister was the informant and not her.
What was the status of her husband on his death, married or widowed or...?
Annie
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Rodeo posted earlier the details of the death record - Charles Hay Reid Printer (Master) married to Jean Whiteford Ross .......which suggests she was still alive but doesn't prove it. His sister, Barbara was the informant and not his wife which is strange but not that unusual.
I've not actually seen the record though, just what was posted which I take was taken from the actual record.
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This marriage in Romford Essex. Jean W Reid to William D Beckett, S quarter, 1953.
Her sister lived in Essex at time of her death in 1978.
https://www.familysearch.org/search/ark:/61903/1:1:QVDN-3HWG
Checked it. Not her.
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Oh my goodness! That is amazing! I am wondering how you think is not her because I think it may be. Jeanie's sister Grace lived in Romford, Essex for a while. My cousin's siblings were born there. The last in 1942. they later moved to the Ilford and Dagenham areas before London.
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There is a possibility children born Romford Essex ( Beckett) mothers maiden name Reid
Your Jeanie would be a bit old then to have children
I think William D Beckett was born about 1931
Rosie
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Oh, I see what you mean. Yes, I found 3 with the last one born in 1960. What a shame! That was really hopeful.
I have passed on to my cousin the suggestion that he try to go to a Scotland's People Centre. However, he lives in Cambridge so I think it will be a while before he will be able to do that.
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One tree on Ancestry seems to have a few children for this couple think it might belong to a relation of yours ?
Rosie
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That will be my tree and my cousin has just copied what I have. What you see is hypothetical only and I was hoping that some Ancestry hints would pop up. They haven't. What I did was search for births in Hamilton with surname Reid between 1935 and 1952. Jeanie was married in 1935 and her husband died in 1952. His death record does not prove whether she was still alive but we know she was still alive on the 13th March 1946 when she was the informant of her father's death. So that is a period of 11-17 years that the couple could have had children.
There are 125 births with several for each year. I picked out likely names and put 5 in my tree:
William 1935
Catherine Paterson 1937
William 1938
James Paterson 1942
Josephine 1951
We think it is strange that there were absolutely no Charles or any with the middle name Hay or Whiteford but there are 2 with the middle name Paterson which is her mother's middle name - Agnes Paterson Harris.
We are focussing on William as it is the Scottish naming pattern to name the first son after the father's father so this would fit perfectly. There were 2 born in 1935 and also a Henry Paterson Reid born in 1935 but we can see no Henry in the family so have ruled him out. William would be the most likely name. As always there are doubts as Jeanie and Charles married on the 18th June 1935. So if it was any of those, they would have been born within 6 months of their marriage which is not at all unusual.
I have found a death for one of the Williams born 1935 and died in 2017. His mother's name was Russell but we have no idea which of the reference numbers he is - 647/774 and 647/852. I am sure I read somewhere that you can tell the quarter from the reference number but these numbers are very close together.
Catherine Paterson - there are 4 deaths but none with the mother's name Ross or in Hamilton or with dates that fit
William 1938 - 628 or these but none with the mother's name Ross. Not all have mother's names. There are 4 in Hamilton but the dates don't fit.
James Paterson - 7 of these but none with mother's name Ross. The only one that doesn't have a name, has dates that don't fit.
Josephine - the name Josephine is in the family but Jeanie's sister's sister in law. A long shot. None of the dates fit.
Our problem arises due the the fact that they are recent Statutory deaths so cannot be viewed using credits on Scotland's People. We would have to purchase the birth certificates which would be an expensive gamble.
My cousin is going to try and go to a Scotland's People Centre but I believe they are all in Scotland. I will send him a list of locations.
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We have to be careful not to name anyone who may still be alive. There is a birth in Hamilton, 1942, which looks interesting. His sister's name was Barbara, was it not?
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Yes, sorry, I didn't think of that.
That is a very interesting thought. I think he must have been close to his sister Barbara. I have passed this on to my cousin.
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The chap at https://en-gb.facebook.com/YourHistoricHamilton/ has, in the past, posted "requests for help", to which some followers have been able to assist. Might be worth asking him to post if anyone has links to the Ross or Reid families from Bent Road or Downie Street in 1940/50s.
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That's an excellent idea! Thanks for that. I've had a quick look and there is a query there already for Bent Road but unrelated. It's worth a try.
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An out of district death to add to list of those worth checking if someone visits an SP centre:
REID
BARBARA
89
HAY
1992
565/ 135
Baillieston
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Yes, I did see that death and the dates fit. I even searched in Ballieston for Jeanie but no success. I thought perhaps they both moved there together.
All of Charles' sisters died spinsters and I believe all of his siblings were all deceased at the time of his death apart form Barbara and his eldest sister Janet Hay.
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I have passed on to my cousin the suggestion that he try to go to a Scotland's People Centre. However, he lives in Cambridge so I think it will be a while before he will be able to do that.
You could maybe post a request for a look up if some one was visiting a Scotlands People Centre and had time to help
Rosie
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You could maybe post a request for a look up if some one was visiting a Scotlands People Centre and had time to help
May be worth emailing SP with details as to whether it may have been missed on the indexing?
Without a definite date (as we've seen in the past with other queries) where dates have been known from Obituaries/MIs etc. SP are pretty good in looking into such matters.
It's definitely odd as she doesn't appear to be on a Passenger List/NA/Obit etc.
Annie
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I have passed on both suggestions. I am so grateful for all of your help. It is very much appreciated.
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Is there a specific page to place a request for a look up at a Scotland's People Centre?
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As Rosinish has suggested try contacting SP to see if they can help incase it has been missed ..Have searched lots of records overseas and nothing. I think if you post on the Scotland's Board requesting a look up at a Scotland's People centre if anyone can help to private message you
Rosie
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Another option, there's a phone no. & enquiry form...
https://www.southlanarkshire.gov.uk/info/200209/deaths/143/bereavement_services_-_burial_and_cremation/8
I'd give all known info. on Charles as well as full name, maiden name, YoB & (last known to be alive 1952 when Charles died) for Jeanie but hopefully all their records are computerised which will hopefully turn up something?
It may be worth adding the known death info. on their parents too (gives them a bit extra to work with).
Annie
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Thank you. That is extremely helpful. I will pass this on.
Regarding newspaper death announcements, I can't find anything but I am not quite sure where to look. There doesn't appear to be anything on Find My Past and The British Newspaper Archives for Hamilton, Lanarkshire only cover up to 1949 as the Bent Cemetery burial records do. Unfortunately, we are looking at 1952. For my own research, which is also relevant to my cousin for another branch, I got a lot from The Greenock Telegraph but I am not used to searching for Hamilton.
I think an enquiry to the Bereavement Services is a very good idea.
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Have you tried...
https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=GGgVawPscysC
Their home address was Hamilton when Charles died, have you considered other libraries?
Halfway Library...
https://www.slleisureandculture.co.uk/info/86/halfway_library/186/contact_details
Hamilton Town House Library...
https://www.slleisureandculture.co.uk/info/87/hamilton_town_house_library/187/contact_details
Lanark Library...
https://www.slleisureandculture.co.uk/info/89/lanark_library/189/contact_details
The above & other libraries listed too may be helpful in locating a death notice or anything else related to Jeanie.
Again, it would be an idea to list as much known 'crucial' info. as possible.
It can often depend on the enthusiasm of the person given the task!
Add...It would also be an idea to let any of the contacts know you've been unable to find a DC but you've been in contact with SP as it seems to have been missed in the indexing? & you've every reason to believe she did die in Hamilton or close-by.
Annie
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Many thanks. I found the death announcement for Charles. He was buried at Bent Road Cemetery on the 16th June and he is recorded as the husband of Jeanie not the widower so she was still living at the time. It also gives us a bit more information about his occupation. He was a printer at R. W Dick.
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death announcement for Charles. He was buried at Bent Road Cemetery on the 16th June and he is recorded as the husband of Jeanie not the widower so she was still living at the time. It also gives us a bit more information about his occupation. He was a printer at R. W Dick.
At least you know for sure Jeanie was alive in 1952 but with no mention of children it begs the question whether they had a family which does seem unlikely?
Findagrave...
REID - Bent Cemetery (nothing stands out)...http://www.rootschat.com/links/01rnv/
ROSS - (nothing stands out)...http://www.rootschat.com/links/01rnw/
Billiongraves...
REID - (nothing stands out) - https://billiongraves.com/cemetery/Hamilton-Bent-Cemetery/185903
Nothing for surname Ross on billiongraves.
Certainly an enigma & given the occ. of Charles you'd expect a headstone.
Annie
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That's good Genie you now have a date of burial and name of cemetery maybe send them an e-mail to see if any other family members are buried with him
Rosie
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That's good Genie you now have a date of burial and name of cemetery maybe send them an e-mail to see if any other family members are buried with him
Rosie,
I think it's the same email address I posted earlier which isn't specific to Brent Cemetery?
bereavement.services@southlanarkshire.gov.uk
Annie
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That's good Genie you now have a date of burial and name of cemetery maybe send them an e-mail to see if any other family members are buried with him
Rosie,
I think it's the same email address I posted earlier which isn't specific to Brent Cemetery?
bereavement.services@southlanarkshire.gov.uk
Annie
Sorry Annie :P
Rosie
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Yes, Jeanie is a total mystery and very elusive.
I already checked Find a Grave and Billion Graves. There are Rosses and Reids but as far as I know, they are not related.
My cousin is going to send a message to South Lanarkshire Council today.
Thanks for the links to the Glasgow Herald Newspapers. I found both Charles and his mother's death announcement there. That was easy as we had the death dates from the burial records that someone kindly provided. It would mean searching every day for 40 odd years to search for Jeanie. I'm going to search some more today.
So, do I take it you have to email a search request to the libraries or can you search on their websites as I can't seem to find a way?
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So, do I take it you have to email a search request to the libraries
Yes you need to email them.
I wouldn't use 'search request' as such as you have no specific date/yr...
More of a plea for help (in the absence of a date) & state the problem in finding Jeanie with a timeline of all known info. you have including addresses at different times as the more you can supply the more options they have of different searches, so worth a try.
Good luck,
Annie
Add, I'd also mention her occ; was she a nurse when she married?
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If you send me a PM with your email address, I'd be happy to forward to you the death certificate for Charles Hay Reid, as you mentioned that you don't have it.
Cheers,
Rodeo
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Well it has been a month and my cousin still hasn't heard back from South Lanarkshire Council about his enquiry about Jeanie. However, he has had a little bit of information from the wife of his late uncle - his father's brother. Ironically, he only died last year so he probably would have known a lot more. She claims that Jeanie went missing and her husband, my cousin's uncle, went to Scotland in the 50s to look for her. he wasn't successful. She also claims that Jeanie went senile so I think that is quite significant. I think that she was probably admitted to some sort of Sanitorium or mental hospital and died in there. It also appears that she may have had children as my cousin's aunt seems to think that she did.
Any advice on where to go from here would be very much appreciated.
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My apologies if it's already been mentioned or you already have this information but there are Nursing Register records for Jean Whiteford Ross on Ancestry, with the last one showing for 1954 and her address as Duneton, Stonefield Rd, Blantyre. There is also a nursing application for 1929 confirming her DOB as 22nd March 1902. I'm intrigued by this lady so good luck with your continued search!
Regards,
Andrea
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Thank you. That is amazing! We were aware about the nursing application from 1929 but haven't seen this one. That was the address Jeanie's mother died so this proves she moved back to Blantyre.
I subsequently found a death in Blantyre in 1962 for a Jean Reid and the age was about right. Unfortunately, it wasn't her.
We do appreciate this as now we have a new last known address.
My cousin has contacted the libraries suggested before and has approached Scotland's People who have just suggested different spellings which we have already done. We are regarding her as missing person.
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I noticed on Jean/Jeanie's nursing application that she did her training at the Deaconess Hospital in Edinburgh. I thought I'd have a look and found this website.
https://www.lhsa.lib.ed.ac.uk/collections/LHB12/lhb12_tlfa.htm (https://www.lhsa.lib.ed.ac.uk/collections/LHB12/lhb12_tlfa.htm)
Also this: https://www.rcpe.ac.uk/sites/default/files/jrcpe_48_1_mcneill.pdf (https://www.rcpe.ac.uk/sites/default/files/jrcpe_48_1_mcneill.pdf)
Their records may nor may not offer any new information but just thought it was worth mentioning in case you wanted to investigate further!
Regards,
Andrea
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Thank you so much. I think it may be worthwhile my cousin contacting them. They may have some information regarding the reason she left nursing. She was on the register in 1954 so either died or disappeared some time before the next registration which latterly was every two years.
Jeanie is registered in her maiden name and apart from 1945, records her old address - Stonefield, Blantyre. There are two listings for 1945 - one 18 Downie Street, Hamilton and the other Stonefield, Blantyre. Her husband, Charles, appears on the Valuation Rolls in 1935 and 1940 at 18 Downie Street but Jeanie appears to be living in Blantyre. I am wondering if they separated.
I am also thinking that it is unlikely she had children as she seems to have worked regularly for 25 years.
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Hi, I was just wondering if you still have a copy or access to Jeanie's father, Robert Ross's death certificate. She was the informant of his death and we are interested to know what address she gives. Whether she is living at the same address at 18 Downie Street or Stonefield, Blantyre as she gives on the Nursing Register entries.
Regards Julie
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Hi Julie
On that death certificate, there is no address cited for the informant, who merely appears as J.W.R. Reid, daughter.
I have just sent you an email with the death certificate and associated RCE for Robert Ross attached.
Cheers,
Rodeo
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Again, many thanks. I'm trying to leave no stone unturned.
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Just a quick message to anyone following this post and kindly gave advice. My cousin has only just received a response from South Lanarkshire Council after months of waiting. They say there is no burial for Jeanie Whiteford Reid nee Ross at Bent Cemetery but did find her husband and parents. We already knew they were buried there but at least now my cousin has the lair numbers. They also say they can't find her brother Andrew Thompson Ross but back in June, Rodeo posted that he is recorded in the Bent Cemetery records and was buried there on the 7th December 1923. As far as I am aware, South Lanarkshire Council administer the Bent Cemetery burial records so I am a bit confused with that. How can we get to view these records ourselves?
So we are back to square one with our search for Jeanie. She has simply vanished off the face of the earth. My cousin even contacted the Lanarkshire police as technically, she is was/is a missing person. They say this is not something they would get involved with.
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Hi Julie
The Andrew T Ross interred in Bent Cemetery on 7 December 1923 is indeed your Andrew Thompson Ross. I have just had a look at his death certificate, which reads as follows:
Andrew Thomson Ross, Art Student, Single, Age 19 Date, Place and Time of Death: 5:25 am, 5 December 1923, Western Infirmary, Glasgow Usual Residence: Stonyfield Road, Blantyre Parents: Robert Ross, Plumber, and Agnes Paterson Ross, Maiden Surname Harris Cause of death: Tuberculosis The informant was Jean W Ross, Sister
I'll forward to you that certificate.
Cheers,
Rodeo