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Title: Kingsbury Episcopi Somerset c.1800s Brown and Prankerds
Post by: gezzers on Sunday 19 June 22 11:25 BST (UK)
I came across a tithe map for 1841 in which my GGGGgrandfather john Brown snr had a number of parcels of land in Kingsbury Episcopi in South East Somerset - one he left of parcel of land to a Mary Prankerds who I can find no information about her (she may(http://) have been born in Langport)  - and why would he when he was already married to someone else - and then another part of the same piece land another bit to an Edward Brown and in the 1841 poll book he is down at living in Burrow Kingsbury Episcopi - yet I can find nothing at all about him.. who are they both
Title: Re: Kingsbury Episcopi Somerset c.1800s Brown and Prankerds
Post by: spendlove on Sunday 19 June 22 16:46 BST (UK)
Hi,

You do not say where you have the image of the tithe map from, but assume you have not actually seen the map at the Record Office, because if you had there is a book “Tithe Award Book” which accompanies the map, by looking at this you would be able to see who owned the land, who occupied each plot and the crop etc., each plot was used for.

From what I read, could be wrong, at the time of the Title 1841

Plot 39b. John Brown Snr., leased this plot from Wyndham, the length of the lease was not for a term of years but for the life of a Mary Prankerds.

Plot 39a, someone named Wheeters, leases this plot from Wyndham, Wheeters apoears to have sub let to John Brown Snr.

So John Brown, does not actually own either plot of land.  In any case a Tithe Map/award book would not give any indication of how land was to be left by an owner of such land.

You appear to have only one part of the information I.e. the map, you also need to see the book which goes with the map.

Hope this assists

Spendlove



Title: Re: Kingsbury Episcopi Somerset c.1800s Brown and Prankerds
Post by: gezzers on Sunday 19 June 22 18:46 BST (UK)
Yes I have and I attached it - or so i thought  - Wheelers by the way is a profession - there was a wheelwright working on the land..but Mary Prankerds, I and the archivist says it was bought by John brown Snr - Lord wyndham owned a lot of land in the area but was heavily in debt at the time and sold off many of his plots of land.. John snr also owned in his own right a large amount of land that had nothing to do with the wyndham family right in the village.
Title: Re: Kingsbury Episcopi Somerset c.1800s Brown and Prankerds
Post by: gezzers on Sunday 19 June 22 19:05 BST (UK)
But my question really was who was Mary Prankerds as there appears to be no record in the record books of such a lady living in KE - yes the same name in nearby Langport but is that the same woman.
Also who was Edward Brown? again nothing in the records books - as far as I can see and accept that even though I have trawled over the books over a number of years I could have missed him but there is no Edward in or nearby as far as i can tell.
Title: Re: Kingsbury Episcopi Somerset c.1800s Brown and Prankerds
Post by: hanes teulu on Sunday 19 June 22 19:07 BST (UK)
Sherborne Mercury, 10 Apr 1847
We, the undersigned Inhabitants of Langport and Huish Episcopi ...
INHABITANTS OF LANGPORT
.....
Mary Prankerd
....
Title: Re: Kingsbury Episcopi Somerset c.1800s Brown and Prankerds
Post by: hanes teulu on Sunday 19 June 22 19:09 BST (UK)
There's a similar item in the Sherborne Mercury, 28 Oct 1839
Title: Re: Kingsbury Episcopi Somerset c.1800s Brown and Prankerds
Post by: hanes teulu on Sunday 19 June 22 19:16 BST (UK)
The 1861 Census has a Mary Prankerd, landed proprietor, age 74, widow at The Hill, Langport.

Title: Re: Kingsbury Episcopi Somerset c.1800s Brown and Prankerds
Post by: hanes teulu on Sunday 19 June 22 19:38 BST (UK)
On the 1841 Census Mary has a daughter Louise, age 25, - probable baptism Langport, 17 Oct 1814, father John, a soldier and mother Mary.
There's a marriage of a John Prankerd, 15 May 1809, Langport and a Mary Stuckey.
Title: Re: Kingsbury Episcopi Somerset c.1800s Brown and Prankerds
Post by: hanes teulu on Sunday 19 June 22 19:48 BST (UK)
Sherborne Mercury12 Apr 1859
MARRIAGES
April 4, at the Baptist Chapel, Montacute, by the Rev. J. Price, Mr George Martin, of Stoke-cum-Hamdon, to Annie, third daughter of the late John Brown, of Kingsbury Episcopi.
Title: Re: Kingsbury Episcopi Somerset c.1800s Brown and Prankerds
Post by: hanes teulu on Sunday 19 June 22 20:04 BST (UK)
FindMyPast Memorial Transcriptions
Langport, All Saints, year 1822, memorial coped stone, notes - Solicitor. Husband of Mary. See also GALLOWAY

Taunton Courier & Western Advertiser, 29 May 1822
"All persons having any claim or demand on the estate of John Prankerd, late of Langport Eastover, in the County of Somerset, Attorney at Law ..."
Title: Re: Kingsbury Episcopi Somerset c.1800s Brown and Prankerds
Post by: shanreagh on Monday 20 June 22 03:04 BST (UK)
I think the document is Mary Prankerd's life ie the life of Mary Prankerd.  The name is an unusual one but we have a few families with that name here in NZ and that is the way they spell it ie Prankerd.  I see the usual spelling has been picked later in the thread.  I wonder if OP can alter the heading to read 'Brown and Prankerd' or 'Browns and Prankerds' if pluralising both names
Title: Re: Kingsbury Episcopi Somerset c.1800s Brown and Prankerds
Post by: gezzers on Monday 20 June 22 08:26 BST (UK)
Thank you for all those replies - the one about Ann(e)/Annie  is interesting to say the least - as I could find nothing more about her other than she was born in 1812 - but DIED in 1813 - this suggest that is wrong - or they had another child shortly after her death and its not been recorded - or I missed it

I will have to trawl back through the register to see if i have missed it - and of course check my own research

Thank you for the newspaper references - I did use to subscribe to the BNAs but gave up after I could find no more about the Wynham arms Inn - which I understand is going to re-open after it closed
cheers gerry brown
Title: Re: Kingsbury Episcopi Somerset c.1800s Brown and Prankerds
Post by: gezzers on Monday 20 June 22 08:29 BST (UK)
Thank you for all those replies - the one about Ann(e)/Annie  is interesting to say the least - as I could find nothing more about her other than she was born in 1812 - but DIED in 1813 - this suggest that is wrong - or they had another child shortly after her death and its not been recorded - or I missed it

I will have to trawl back through the register to see if i have missed it - and of course check my own research

Thank you for the newspaper references - I did use to subscribe to the BNAs but gave up after I could find no more about the Wynham arms Inn - which I understand is going to re-open after it closed
cheers gerry brown
Title: Re: Kingsbury Episcopi Somerset c.1800s Brown and Prankerds
Post by: gezzers on Monday 20 June 22 08:43 BST (UK)
Ann daughter of John and Susan (nee Best) born in 1832 and I could nothing more about her.. and this appears to be why - she moved away (this seems more likely as John died in 1845)