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Title: henry philips
Post by: angel7025 on Monday 30 May 22 07:52 BST (UK)

henry philips he was a 25th of foot soldier married married margaret bookless.  can anyone help whether he was english or scottish,  marriage cert does not say of this parish,  margaret is of the parish of SPOTT

Title: Re: henry philips
Post by: Forfarian on Monday 30 May 22 12:42 BST (UK)

A date would be helpful.

Title: Re: henry philips
Post by: tidybooks on Monday 30 May 22 13:53 BST (UK)

Hi Angel7025,

The 25th Regiment of Foot was an earlier name of the King's Own Scottish Borderers, they were barracked in Berwick Upon Tweed. So he could have been Scottish or English, Old Parish Records were not too informative.. I noticed their marriage was 24th December, 1781.

Tom Buchanan

Title: Re: henry philips
Post by: angel7025 on Monday 30 May 22 15:51 BST (UK)

marriage 1781 SPOTT   

Title: Re: henry philips
Post by: angel7025 on Monday 30 May 22 15:57 BST (UK)

thanks everyone  i think its going to be a very hard problem  ive got information going forward, but just cant get back from the marriage

Title: Re: henry philips
Post by: Forfarian on Monday 30 May 22 17:04 BST (UK)

Have you got his military service record? That might say where he was born.

Title: Re: henry philips
Post by: angel7025 on Tuesday 31 May 22 04:05 BST (UK)

ive got nothing, except his marriage record which states his regiment.  family and marriage in haddington area,  and thats all i can find on him,,

his son    Henry Phillips
Sex:   Male
Wife:   Agnes Fleeming

Name:   
Henry Phillips
Event Type:   
Burial
Event Date:   
21 Nov 1850
Event Place:   
Surrey, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original):   
Nunhead, Surrey, England
Address:   
Licensed Victuallers Asylum
Sex:   
Male
Age:   
68
Birth Year (Estimated):   
1782
Cemetery:   
Nunhead Cemetery Of All Saints In The Parish Of Saint Giles', Camberwell

Title: Re: HenryPhilipsHeadWidowerMale891772Labourer agriculturalSpott, Hadding
Post by: angel7025 on Tuesday 31 May 22 05:06 BST (UK)

First name(s) Henry
Parish Haddington
Last name Philips
County Haddingtonshire (East Lothian)
Relationship Head
Country Scotland
Marital status Widower
Registration district Haddington
Sex Male
Sub district -
Age 89
Enumeration district 15
Age as transcribed 89
Family member last name Philips
Birth year 1772
Family member first name(s) Christian
Birth town Spott
Archive reference -
Birth town as transcribed SPOTT
Piece number -
Birth county Haddingtonshire (East Lothian)
Folio -
Birth county as transcribed HADDINGTONSHIRE (EAST LOTHIAN)
Page -
Birth place other Scotland
Schedule 13
Occupation Labourer agricultural
Record set 1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Full address Ugston Rigg, Haddington, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Category Census, land & surveys
House name Ugston Rigg
Subcategory Census
Street -
Collections from Great Britain, Scotland

Title: Re: henry philips
Post by: Forfarian on Tuesday 31 May 22 09:29 BST (UK)

Those have to be two different Henry Phil(l)ip(s).

If he was married in 1781, he must have been born much earlier than 1772. He wouldn't even have been able to join the army at the age of 9.

And if he was buried in 1850 he can't be the one in the 1861 census.

What were the names of his children, in order of birth? Have you found him in the 1841 census?

BTW the Christian in the 1861 census was Henry's daughter, aged 44. Whatever transcription you got that from evidently failed to include all the information in the original document.

Don't confuse the parish/town of Haddington with the county of Haddington aka Haddingtonshire aka East Lothian. Spott is a parish in the county of East Lothian. See https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct/ELN
 

Title: Re: henry philips
Post by: angel7025 on Tuesday 31 May 22 12:23 BST (UK)

yes margaret and henry the soldier had a son henry and the name kept being used which is very frustrating.so im thinking soldier mayb born 1750ish somewhere

Title: Re: henry philips
Post by: angel7025 on Tuesday 31 May 22 12:27 BST (UK)

theres also a henry born 1863 in london surrey but im not sure whose who, i got the info off familysearch.org and scotlandspeople site  all i know for sure is bookless the wife and 25th regt of foot, and they had a son henry mayb he was a soldier to although his marriage cert doesnt say that 

Title: Re: henry philips
Post by: angel7025 on Sunday 14 August 22 13:00 BST (UK)

Only for the marriage cert saying of the 25th of foot regiment id never have known as i cant find any info on him.  KOSEM  museum cant find his service record.  So its a 1798 marriage spott to margaret bookless.  Have his only sons birth 1801 henry haddington and from there on, but henry has either came from the military in england or joined up in scotland, but theres no birth for him in scotland, so im guessing its england originating.   

Title: Re: henry philips
Post by: angel7025 on Sunday 23 July 23 04:58 BST (UK)

this henry that married margaret bookless spott scotland   soldier,  military record not located, had a son henry lived haddington,  his son george was also a soldier who came out to tasmania have georges military record

Title: Re: henry philips
Post by: angel7025 on Sunday 23 July 23 05:01 BST (UK)

2nd henry phillips was georges GF.   Cannot locate the GF,  Census did not help with info