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I have Ann Thorpe baptized 6 Mar 1700, father Isaachar Thorpe and Ann Thorpe baptized 27 Oct 1700, father John. Both baptized in Oldham in Lancashire, England. What other information should I look for to help decide which one is my wife's 6th great-grandmother who married Joseph Stansfield in 1716 in Oldham? Have I hit a brick wall? cheers Trevor Walmsley, Christchurch, New Zealand.
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Have you looked for marriages and deaths for every Ann or Nanny Thorp in the area in a likely timeframe?
Are you sure it was one of those 2 Ann Thorps?
Did any of the family leave wills which may have mentioned in-laws?
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Joseph/Ann name children;
Elizabeth 1716/7
Mary 1718
Anne 1720/1
Jane 1723
James 1726
Joseph 1728
Anne 1731
Alice 1735
Joseph may have been buried 14 Apr 1757 Abode: Older Root
All on LancsOPC
Anne and Mary 1718/1721 both appear to be buried 1726, Daugs of Joseph (FreeREG)
Do you have a Burial for Ann to have a more accurate record of her year of birth?
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If Ann & Joseph followed a traditional naming pattern for their children, it's likely grandmothers were Elizabeth and Mary. Perhaps aunts Jane and Alice. Unfortunately all very common names.
Only 2 sons? Shame one of them wasn't Isaacher.
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I have Ann Thorpe baptized 6 Mar 1700, father Isaachar Thorpe and Ann Thorpe baptized 27 Oct 1700, father John. Both baptized in Oldham in Lancashire, England.
Have you looked for marriages and deaths for every Ann or Nanny Thorp in the area in a likely timeframe?
Are you sure it was one of those 2 Ann Thorps?
I looked for marriages for Ann Thorp within a 10 mile radius of St. Mary, Oldham and a timeframe of 20 years either side of 1720. Then looked for children of each couple.
Lancashire Online Parish Clerks Ancestor Search https://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html
Found marriages for 2 other women named Ann Thorp/e
22nd July 1722 St. Mary, Oldham
John Winterbottom, weaver, abode Ryton
Ann Thorp, spinster, Edge Lane
26th Dec. 1723 St. Mary the Virgin, Prestwich
Jonathan Neild, fustian weaver, Oldham
Ann Thorpe, Oldham
Prestwich is 7 miles from St. Mary, Oldham. Prestwich parish historically covered a large area.
Jonathan & Ann Neild named a son Issacher.
Baptism 25th January 1735/6 St. Mary, Oldham
Issacher Neild son of Jonathan & Anne
Abode: Side of Theal Moor; Occupation: wr
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More probable children of Jonathan & Ann Neild.
1724 Mary, 1726 James, 1728 Anne, 1731 Jonathan.
Issachar and Jonathan Neild, sons of Jonathan were buried at St. Mary, Oldham in June 1736. Abode Whitegate/Near Whitegate.
Baptisms of children of Issachar Thorpe.
Martha March 1695/1696, John 1698, Ann March 1700/1701, James Feb. 1706/1707
Burial April 1707 of Mary Thorpe, wife of Issachar, abode Cowhill
Also burial 1703 Issachar Thorp, bachelor abode Ryton.
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I have Ann Thorpe baptized 6 Mar 1700, father Isaachar Thorpe
Clarification regarding date. Baptism date was 6th March 1700/01. Year was 1700 by the Julian Calendar. A new church year began in late March. According to the Gregorian Calendar which was adopted in England in mid 18th century and is the calendar we still use, Ann's baptism was in 1701.
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Ann Thorpe baptized 27 Oct 1700, father John.
Abode was Edge Lane in Ryton.
Another baptism in 1708 Anna Thorp, daughter of John, abode Edge Lane, Ryton.
The Ann Thorp who married John Winterbottom in 1722 had Edge Lane as her abode when she married. John Winterbottom's abode was Ryton.
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Joseph/Ann name children;
Elizabeth 1716/7
Mary 1718
Anne 1720/1
Jane 1723
James 1726
Joseph 1728
Anne 1731
Alice 1735
Joseph may have been buried 14 Apr 1757 Abode: Older Root
All on LancsOPC
Joseph's abode at baptisms of Elizabeth, Mary and Anne was Cowhill.
Abode for baptisms of the others was Owler Roote/Older Root
Also Edmund January 1736/7 and Susanna March 1742/3. Abode Owler Root.
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Joseph/Ann name children;
Elizabeth 1716/7
Mary 1718
Anne 1720/1
Jane 1723
James 1726
Joseph 1728
Anne 1731
Alice 1735
Also Edmund January 1736/7 and Susanna March 1742/3.
The name Edmund may be from Joseph's side of the family.
Burial 1709 St. Mary, Oldham
Edmund Stansfield son of James. Abode Hollinwood.
Joseph Stansfield's abode when he married in 1716 was Hollinwood.
Another Stansfield burial. 1729 St. Mary, Oldham
Old James Stansfield. Abode Hollinwood.