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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wales => Glamorganshire => Topic started by: rachelburnley on Wednesday 25 May 22 17:40 BST (UK)
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My mother and i are coming to Mountain Ash in June.
We are visiting Aberffrwd cemetery to see Jacob's grave, we have found the receipt for the grave, died March 1921.
We are unable to find Hannah/Anna Maria who we think died Apr-June 1921. Unable to find more Info.
We know their eldest daughter Laura married Alfred Sale.
their eldest son was my great grandfather, william Henry.
John, in 1911 census was with the family and down as married. We think his grandson was called Raymond as mum remember her dad saying his cousin named the son after him.
Jacob married elizabeth evans and they had Lorraine - who my mum remembers visiting. Lived at the triangle.
Any ideas where to look for more information or anyone who knows anything greatly appreciated.
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Do you have Jacob’s death certificate which might say if he was a widower. Wouldn’t they be buried together? Whoever registered the death might help too, to give a timeframe. Have you looked on the 1921 census?
Who are John, Jacob and Elizabeth Evans?
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Do you have Jacob’s death certificate which might say if he was a widower. Wouldn’t they be buried together? Whoever registered the death might help too, to give a timeframe. Have you looked on the 1921 census?
Who are John, Jacob and Elizabeth Evans?
john and Jacob are sons, Elizabeth is a daughter-in-law
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You could contact the council who manage the cemetery where Jacob is buried and see if they can help.
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Hi
Your post is confusing as you don't give surnames so we don't know whether you are talking about children of Jacob & Elizabeth
You don't give any birthyears
Is this Jacob's death reg so we know his age? What date in March did he die?
Deaths March qtr 1921
THOMAS Jacob 79 Pontypridd 11a 660
Did he have a son Arthur born around 1875? If so - Jacob was a widower in 1911. If that is the right 1911 entry - Jacob was born Walwyns Castle Pembrokeshire
We are unable to find Hannah/Anna Maria who we think died Apr-June 1921. Unable to find more Info.
Hannah/Anna Maria who? No surname or age given? What is her connection to Jacob?
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1901 census
Jacob Thomas 59 b Wallwy Castle Pembrokeshire,
Maria 64 b Lambston Pembrokeshire
Arthur 26 b Ystradyfodwg Glamorgan
Thomas H 24 b Ystradyfodwg
RG13 Piece 5016 Folio 74 Page 41
In 1871/1881 & 1891 she is Maria
Marriages March qtr 1862
Roberts Maria Haverfordwest 11a 789
Thomas Jacob Haverfordwest 11a 789
We know their eldest daughter Laura married Alfred Sale.
They do not have a daughter Laura and there is no marriage of an Alfred Sale to a Laura Thomas so whose daughter are you referring to?
Possible death for Maria
Deaths Dec qtr 1910
Thomas Maria 78 Pontypridd 11a 357
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We know their eldest daughter Laura married Alfred Sale.
They do not have a daughter Laura and there is no marriage of an Alfred Sale to a Laura Thomas so whose daughter are you referring to?
Is this the marriage?
25 May 1891 Llanhilleth, Monmouthshire, Wales
Laura Jane Thomas age 21 Father: Jacob Thomas
Spouse: Alfred Sales
1871c
Piece: 2303
Folio: 46
Page number: 31
Jacob Thomas 26 Head Sithney, Cornwall
Hannah Thomas 21 Wife
Laura J Thomas 9/12 Daughter Somerset
Edit to add 1891 census
Piece: 4351
Folio: 51
Page Number: 6
Jacob Thomas 44 Sithney, Cornwall
Hannah M Thomas 42
Laura Thomas 20 Cheddar Somerset
William H Thomas 19
John Thomas 13
Eliza A Thomas 9
Jacob Thomas 3
Alfred Sales 21 Pershore, Worcestershire
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If that is the right census with Laura then he can't be the Pontypridd death & must be the 73yr old died March qtr 1921 RD Newtown Monmouthshire (posted on Glamorgan board)
Rachel
Can you clarify how old Jacob was when he died & what was his address?
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1911 Jacob Thomas age 65 born Sithney Cornwall wife Hannah, sons
William, John (married) & son Jacob are living in Mountain Ash
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Jacob married elizabeth evans and they had Lorraine - who my mum remembers visiting. Lived at the triangle.
Who are John, Jacob and Elizabeth Evans?
john and Jacob are sons, Elizabeth is a daughter-in-law
For info.
If looking for Jacob Thomas (Jnr.) with his wife and daughter in 1939 Mountain Ash their surname has been transcribed as HOMAS on Anc*y (a correction submitted)
Lorraine Thomas married 1947 and this is her death entry
Lorraine James Death Age: 56
Birth 20 Sep 1919
Dec 1975 Pontypridd Volume: 27 Page: 1148
She died 30 November 1975 Probate gives her address 3 The Triangle Mountain Ash Mid Glamorgan
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Hi
Your post is confusing as you don't give surnames so we don't know whether you are talking about children of Jacob & Elizabeth
You don't give any birthyears
Is this Jacob's death reg so we know his age? What date in March did he die?
Deaths March qtr 1921
THOMAS Jacob 79 Pontypridd 11a 660
Did he have a son Arthur born around 1875? If so - Jacob was a widower in 1911. If that is the right 1911 entry - Jacob was born Walwyns Castle Pembrokeshire
We are unable to find Hannah/Anna Maria who we think died Apr-June 1921. Unable to find more Info.
Hannah/Anna Maria who? No surname or age given? What is her connection to Jacob?
Sorry Carole,
thought the post title was obvious.
the surname was Thomas. Jacob the father (born 1841, cornwall) died april 1921, buried in abwefford cemetry, mountain ash. I think his wife hannah/ann maria nee Mannell (born 1847, cornwall) died april 1921.
Jacob and Hannah/Anna Maria has 2 daughters (Laura & Eliza), 3 sons (William, John & Jacob) and 3 other children who born and died between censuses.
Laura Jane (1870 -1915) married Alfred Sales, had 8 children.
William Henry (1871-1948) my great great grandfather.
Eliza Annie (born 1882, died 1894)
John (born Oct-dec 1879, Ebbw Vale) married between 1901-1911 not sure who. Think his grandson was called Raymond.
Jacob the son (born 2 Oct 1887, Monmouthshire) married Elizabeth Evans (1893-1970). Had one daughter Lorraine (1919-1975).
Jacob the father buried with daughter and grandson plus a Mary Ann Thomas buried 20-4-1912 (maybe a daughter)
Unsure where Jacob's wife is buried.
Unsure who John married or when died/buried.
Unsure where Jacob the son or his wife is buried or their daughter.
Unsure where daughter Eliza Annie is buried.
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Jacob married elizabeth evans and they had Lorraine - who my mum remembers visiting. Lived at the triangle.
Who are John, Jacob and Elizabeth Evans?
john and Jacob are sons, Elizabeth is a daughter-in-law
For info.
If looking for Jacob Thomas (Jnr.) with his wife and daughter in 1939 Mountain Ash their surname has been transcribed as HOMAS on Anc*y (a correction submitted)
Lorraine Thomas married 1947 and this is her death entry
Lorraine James Death Age: 56
Birth 20 Sep 1919
Dec 1975 Pontypridd Volume: 27 Page: 1148
She died 30 November 1975 Probate gives her address 3 The Triangle Mountain Ash Mid Glamorgan
lady Hawk - Yes this is Lorraine. not sure where she is buried though. Nor her parents.