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Title: Bowmen/bowman what?
Post by: Stanwix England on Sunday 15 May 22 17:40 BST (UK)
Hi,

I'm looking at an 1841 census location.

I think it says Bowmen or bowman but I can't make out the second word. I think the second word starts with an R. Is it range?

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Thank you
Title: Re: Bowmen/bowman what?
Post by: manukarik on Sunday 15 May 22 18:19 BST (UK)
Bowmans, Kent?

Only thing I could find in a Gazetter that looked anything similar.
Title: Re: Bowmen/bowman what?
Post by: Tickettyboo on Sunday 15 May 22 18:58 BST (UK)
This is the enumerators description:
So I'd say its Bowman's  * but can't make out the second word.
I looked through the same area in 1851 and it doesn't appear at all, either in the description or if I page through.

If it helps, FindMyPast have transcribed it as Bowman's Row.

 
Boo

Title: Re: Bowmen/bowman what?
Post by: Stanwix England on Sunday 15 May 22 19:39 BST (UK)
Thank you both so much, I really appreciate your help and kindness.
Title: Re: Bowmen/bowman what?
Post by: Rena on Sunday 15 May 22 21:32 BST (UK)
With other rootschatters I've also searched for the reference to Bowman of/near Finkle Lane, Workington.  I noted there was a Bowman farm in the area together with a large Bowman house, etc.

What I've found is that the family name of a place, such as a "Yard" or "Farm" is often referred to long after the person has retired/died.

For instance my ancestor lived in "Willis's Passage", as an apprentice to a man with the surname of "Blake".     

A couple of decades later it was known as "Blakes Passage". until the area was modernised. 





Quite often it helps to look at the collection of historical Directories, free to view on the Leicester University website:-

http://specialcollections.le.ac.uk/digital/collection/p16445coll4
Title: Re: Bowmen/bowman what?
Post by: tellx on Monday 16 May 22 06:28 BST (UK)
Bowmans Ranes
Title: Re: Bowmen/bowman what?
Post by: manukarik on Monday 16 May 22 11:33 BST (UK)
Bowman's Place?
Title: Re: Bowmen/bowman what?
Post by: Michael J on Monday 16 May 22 12:02 BST (UK)
Could it be Bowman's Lane?

 I have two instances of Registrar's using a very flowery capital L that looks like the letter R- it took me ages to find my brother's birth registration as even on the GRO index his surname is under 'R' instead of 'L'.

Michael.
Title: Re: Bowmen/bowman what?
Post by: Rena on Monday 16 May 22 12:30 BST (UK)
I suggest you surf for "Old Maps" to see what was at the end of Finkle Street.  I tried to view maps but my eyesight isn't up to it.

I did look in the old directories but as there isn't one available for the year of the census it wasn't  fruitful, although I did see the surname Bowman was listed in several  Cumbrian towns
Title: Re: Bowmen/bowman what?
Post by: Treetotal on Monday 16 May 22 13:31 BST (UK)
I think it could be Bowman's Row:

Have a look here, showing Workington:

https://maps.nls.uk/view/102340845

Carol
Title: Re: Bowmen/bowman what?
Post by: Rena on Monday 16 May 22 14:20 BST (UK)
I think it could be Bowman's Row:

Have a look here, showing Workington:

https://maps.nls.uk/view/102340845

Carol

I think you've cracked it Carol.  Congratulations.
Title: Re: Bowmen/bowman what?
Post by: Tickettyboo on Monday 16 May 22 14:35 BST (UK)
Hi Carol

Please could you give me a clue as to where on that map Bowman's Row is marked? I'm going crosseyed and still can't see it. (this getting old lark is no fun at all!)

Boo
Title: Re: Bowmen/bowman what?
Post by: Karen McDonald on Monday 16 May 22 14:41 BST (UK)
Hi Carol

Please could you give me a clue as to where on that map Bowman's Row is marked? I'm going crosseyed and still can't see it. (this getting old lark is no fun at all!)

Boo

Ditto!  8)
Title: Re: Bowmen/bowman what?
Post by: Treetotal on Monday 16 May 22 15:07 BST (UK)
I didn't say that I had found it, I'm guessing  ;D ;D ;D I didn't have the time to look.  :-[
Carol
Title: Re: Bowmen/bowman what?
Post by: Tickettyboo on Monday 16 May 22 15:11 BST (UK)
Ok, I'll cancel the appointment with Specsavers then :-)

I can't see a Bowman's Row on that map, even Finkle Street isn't named on that one, though I can find Finkle Street on a later NLS map and its still in existence on modern day maps.

Boo
Title: Re: Bowmen/bowman what?
Post by: JenB on Monday 16 May 22 15:26 BST (UK)
I thought Carol had actually found it as well!

There are detailed 1860-ish maps of Workington here https://www.rootschat.com/links/01rjo/   I can find Finkle Street, but no sign of the mystery place.

Title: Re: Bowmen/bowman what?
Post by: Treetotal on Monday 16 May 22 15:41 BST (UK)
I should have made it more clear that I was just offering an opinion. I found Finkle Street too, but couldn't find Bowman's whateveritis.
Maybe a more detailed map is needed. If you don't find it Jen, then it's not there  ;D
Carol
Title: Re: Bowmen/bowman what?
Post by: JenB on Monday 16 May 22 15:44 BST (UK)
Flattery will get you everywhere  ;D

Like everyone else so far I’m drawing a blank on this one.
Title: Re: Bowmen/bowman what?
Post by: Rena on Tuesday 17 May 22 00:54 BST (UK)
From memory there were two Bowman males living in Workington on Finkle Street.  One was a pub landlord and the other was what looked like an owner/occupier.

I imagine they could be related and one or both of them owned the row of properties.

For instance; I currently live in an old row of terraced cottages that were built and owned by a cotton weaver in the mid 1800s. The owner lived at one end of the row and the manager lived at the other end of the row.   
Title: Re: Bowmen/bowman what?
Post by: Stanwix England on Tuesday 17 May 22 20:24 BST (UK)
Thank you so much to everyone for your continued help on this. The Bowman link is really interesting. I am very grateful to everyone.