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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => London and Middlesex => England => London & Middlesex Lookup Requests => Topic started by: Kazlou on Thursday 12 May 22 13:08 BST (UK)
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Unfortunately two common names here for those who like a challenge!
Birth certificate of my 3x Gt Grandmother Matilda Davis - born 1840 at 90 Golden Lane, Whitecross Street, London - gives her parents as George Davis, shoemaker, and Mary Davis, formelry Taylor.
I can find them on various census returns but cannot find a marriage between George and Mary (sometime Mary Ann).
Matilda is the first child as far as I can tell so presuming the marriage is on or before 1840.
George I am pretty certain was born in 1820 in Blue Anchor Alley and Mary around 1821 in St Luke's.
Can anyone find a likely marriage that I can then investigate further? There are plenty of George Davis marriages to a Mary Ann but none with the surname Taylor - although i could just be going cross eyed with them all.
Thanks in advance :)
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There is a George DAVIS and Mary Ann TAYLOR on the same page for marriages at Kensington March qtr 1846 (3/199). Can't find an actual marriage to see if they married each other. I realise this is after the birth of first children, but certainly happened fairly often. :-\
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"I can find them on various census returns "
Can you identify them on the census records that you see....year....names...ages...location.
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I'm assuming this is the family:
In 1841 at St Giles without Cripplegate
George DAVIS 20 shoemaker (Y)
Mary 20 shoebinder (N)
Matilda 1 (Y)
HO107/727/7/12 pg 18
In 1851 at St Luke Finsbury
George DAVIS 29 shoemaker City of London
Mary 28 N. K.
Matilda 10 Middlesex
Louisa 8
Mary 5
Jemima 2
N.K. (son) 3 days
H)107/1523/336 pg 12
In 1861 at St Luke, Finsbury
George DAVIES 41 shoemaker St Botolph
Mary 40 St Luke
George 8
Thomas 5
John 7 months
Mary 14
RG9/209/79 pg2
In 1871 at St Luke, Finsbury
George DAVIS 51 shoemaker St Luke
Mary A 49 general dealer Surrey Southwall
George 17 costermonger St Luke
John 9
James 4
RG10/411/21 pg 11
In 1881 at St Lukes
George DAVIS 59 shoemaker ?? City
Mary Ann 54 general dealer Bishopsgate
John 19 french polisher
Ann 17 wood ??
James 15
RG11/365/62 pg 19
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There is a George DAVIS and Mary Ann TAYLOR on the same page for marriages at Kensington March qtr 1846 (3/199). Can't find an actual marriage to see if they married each other. I realise this is after the birth of first children, but certainly happened fairly often. :-\
The bride in that marriage was Eleanor BOWSTREED.
Debra :)
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Thanks Debra, rules that one out. :)
Noticing that Mary does not seem to know where she was born, if they did marry, it may not have been in London?
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Thanks Debra, rules that one out. :)
Noticing that Mary does not seem to know where she was born, if they did marry, it may not have been in London?
Hi Maddy - the census details you posted are the ones I have. Mary's birthplace does seem to jump around a little but where it is given it seems to be in London - but anything is possible. My guess is that it is probably around St Luke's - this family, including other branches - did not move around much staying pretty close to the Golden Lane/Whitecross Street area.
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In 1881 at St Lukes
George DAVIS 59 shoemaker ?? City
Mary Ann 54 general dealer Bishopsgate
John 19 french polisher
Ann 17 wood ??
James 15
RG11/365/62 pg 19
At Longs Buildings.
Admission of George Davis to the City Road workhouse, 28 June (two images, also on ancestry)
Shoemaker, born 1819
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS1Y-N9GC-7
Creed register
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS1K-X9C9-J
Still there, next creed register. Now written as Davies. Says he died 7.1.84
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS1K-X9H6-J
Death from the A+D Register, 7.1.84.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS1Y-LZ8X
George Davies, age 62, residence City Road Workhouse,buried 14 January 1884, City of London Cemetery
https://col-burialregisters.uk/archive/burial-registers-january-1880-to-december-1889/register-037/1076475
Possible from the Holborn Union exam books, 16.5.82
Mary Davis, 59
Husband George Davis, 63, at Highgate (the infirmary)
Mentions previously being at Longs Buildings.
It's a bit disappointing, says (in) St Lukes 40 years.
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/1557/images/31363_a109291-00029
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Possible from the Holborn Union exam books, 16.5.82
Mary Davis, 59
Husband George Davis, 63, at Highgate (the infirmary)
Mentions previously being at Longs Buildings.
It's a bit disappointing, says (in) St Lukes 40 years.
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/1557/images/31363_a109291-00029
This is interesting, will take a look. 40 years in St Luke's sounds about right!
I also have George dying in January 1884 so the other comments now support this, with Longs Buildings as his previous residence.
Just cannot find that marriage - I'm starting to think they perhaps didn't marry or Mary was married previously and Taylor is not the name under which she was married!