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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Derry (Londonderry) => Topic started by: Peggy13 on Wednesday 04 May 22 20:55 BST (UK)
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I found the death of Samuel Lennox on July 13, 1887 in Londonderry. He was a grocer. I have his will which names his living children. His son Samuel John was present at his death. Samuel John died the following year, Apr 22, 1888.
Trouble is, I am trying to fit him into my tree. I think his parents were John Lennox and Sarah Jane Latimer. Perhaps if there was a writeup for him naming relatives, I would be able to prove or disprove this. I think his father predeceased him before 1861 but of course, that death is before compulsory registration and may have taken place in England. His mother may also have died in England in 1875.
Can anyone help with this matter? Thank you so much.
Peggy
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Londonderry Sentinel, 14 July 1887: July 13, at his residence, Waterside, Londonderry, Samuel Lennox. [lnterment in Cemetery on tomorrow (Friday) morning, the instant, at half past ten o’clock. Friends will please accept ...
Cemetery records father as John (mother's name not given)- free to view transcript once signed in.
https://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=IRE%2FDERRY-BURS%2FSCR%2F044160
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I don't belong to findmypast but I have a 3 month subscription to Ancestry so should be able to see this transcript if only I knew how. Which cemetery is he in? Thank you
Peggy
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I found Samuel's wife's burial on findagrave. But he is not with her, or at least not mentioned on findagrave.
Parents: John & Mary Anne Nutt
Place of birth: Claudy
Place of residence: Spencer Road
Age: 41 years
Date of burial: 11 Apr 1881
Plot proprietor: Samuel Lennox, 4 Spencer Road Waterside
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Samuel Lennox buried Derry City Cemetery (as mentioned in death notice)- plot E-a-279. Wife Elizabeth buried same plot.
Also- Alexander Lennox (d.1893)
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I found Samuel's wife's burial on findagrave. But he is not with her, or at least not mentioned on findagrave.
Parents: John & Mary Anne Nutt
Place of birth: Claudy
Place of residence: Spencer Road
Age: 41 years
Date of burial: 11 Apr 1881
Plot proprietor: Samuel Lennox, 4 Spencer Road Waterside
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/207723340/eliza-jane-lennox
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I don't belong to findmypast but I have a 3 month subscription to Ancestry so should be able to see this transcript if only I knew how. Which cemetery is he in? Thank you
Peggy
Find My Past is free for many records. I am not a paying member but I found the record put up by Aghadowey with no problems. It is probably a good choice to enrol in, same as with Family Search. :)
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Thank you aghadowey, KG, and shanreagh. I did manage to find the transcript on FindmyPast on second try so I see father John. I now think Samuel's mother is NOT Sarah Jane Latimer but still researching that. I had hoped that being a grocer, perhaps Samuel would have more of a writeup about his death. Is there any death notice for Eliza Jane Lennox nee Nutt, dod Apr 11, 1881?
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Is there any death notice for Eliza Jane Lennox nee Nutt, dod Apr 11, 1881?
Derry Journal, 11 Apr.1881 - death notice and writeup on her death available on Find My Past.
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Hi aghadowey and thank you. I did find her death record but not a writeup. Perhaps I don't have access to the writeup.
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I did find her death record but not a writeup. Perhaps I don't have access to the writeup.
Peggy,
If you have the subscription, the death notice was on page 1 of the Derry Journal, 11 Apr.1881 edition. The write-up was on page 7 (bottom right corner).
https://search.findmypast.co.uk/bna/ViewArticle?id=BL%2F0001123%2F18810411%2F128%2F0007&browse=true
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I tried but I guess I don’t have access. Put in appropriate filters of Londonderry, Londonderry and Derry Journal and date of writeup. Scrolled through 148 articles.
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I have written to FindmyPast, requesting a copy of Eliza Jane's writeup on Page 7 of the Derry Journal on Apr 11, 1881.
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I have written to FindmyPast, requesting a copy of Eliza Jane's writeup on Page 7 of the Derry Journal on Apr 11, 1881.
Find My Past is a pay site ???
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Yes, I saw on the site that you could order items for 50 pence. Hope that includes newspaper articles. Hope they still do that.
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Hello, I did get the writeup of Eliza Jane Lennox, nee Nutt, published in the Derry Journal of Apr 11, 1881. Has details of her death but not family information, other than to mention her husband Samuel.
Peggy
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Often in those days all you got was the death notice in the paper and this could be as short or long as the info provided to the publishers of the paper. Sometimes notable people (in their community) got an obituary, writeup about how long they had been there, family, etc etc. I have to say it would be more likely to be the grocer than the grocer's wife who had an obituary written about them (unless she came from an old family - the Nutt/McNutt family were an old family.
In the 1880s in Co Derry sometimes there were funeral cards delivered to people advising of the burial etc. We have a couple of these.
So not all people had a death notice in the paper, even fewer people had an obituary written about them printed in the paper. Looking back now sometimes all we find is a copy of the official death certificate.
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In the 1880s in Co Derry sometimes there were funeral cards delivered to people advising of the burial etc. We have a couple of these.
The oldest one we have is from 1840s (handwritten) but the custom continued, at least in rural areas, until the 1930s. Have just been given the loan of a huge box of them to copy and one of the first ones I saw was for my great-grandmother's sister who died in 1901. The good thing, since it was by way of an invitation to the funeral, is that place of burial almost always listed which you don't get on a death certificate.
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That is very interesting, aghadowey and shanreagh. Thank you.
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In the 1880s in Co Derry sometimes there were funeral cards delivered to people advising of the burial etc. We have a couple of these.
The oldest one we have is from 1840s (handwritten) but the custom continued, at least in rural areas, until the 1930s. Have just been given the loan of a huge box of them to copy and one of the first ones I saw was for my great-grandmother's sister who died in 1901. The good thing, since it was by way of an invitation to the funeral, is that place of burial almost always listed which you don't get on a death certificate.
Wow a whole box! Are they all from Derry? What a treasure trove and what bliss to record them.
Sorry I did not mean to be inferring that the practice was only in the 1880s...just that the ones that turned up for our family here in NZ were from 1880s.
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I have written to FindmyPast, requesting a copy of Eliza Jane's writeup on Page 7 of the Derry Journal on Apr 11, 1881.
Find My Past is a pay site ???
I saw on the site that you could order items for 50 pence.
We live & learn, is it possible to give us a link to that statement please?
Annie
Add...Not sure what I did but my post is in the wrong place i.e. I have highlighted it ???
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I clicked on the link that KG sent in reply #10, and it took me to the subscription page. If you scroll to the bottom, it said Commitment Shy? Buy the record on its own. When I clicked on that, it said 50 pence. So I paid 50 pence.
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Is there any death notice for Eliza Jane Lennox nee Nutt, dod Apr 11, 1881?
Derry Journal, 11 Apr.1881 - death notice and writeup on her death available on Find My Past.
Using the link at Reply #10...
The death notice doesn't give a name, only "Mrs Lennox wife of Samuel J Lennox"
Annie
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I asked for the writeup on Page 7, which also refers to Mrs. Lennox, wife of Samuel J. Lennox. Headline is Sudden Death at the Waterside.
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Samuel Lennox's wife was Eliza Jane Nutt - born at Gortnaskea, Bondsglen - November 1840. Father John Nutt (1809-1876) a blacksmith. Mother Mary Ann Hannah(1819-1871)
John and Mary Ann had 11 children (that I've found). Sometime between 1846 and 1848 they moved to Claudy.
Eliza was married to Connolly Blair first - he died in 1865 - and she married Samuel Lennox in 1866.
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This is great information, They Search for us. Thank you so very, very much. I have the marriage of Samuel's parents (John Lennox and Sarah Jane Latimer) Apr 24, 1834 at Moneymore First Presbyterian on Meeting House Street although I am lacking the parents of each of John and Sarah Jane. John was born abt 1808, almost certainly in Cranny and his father is believed to be James with a possible wife Ann Dick, as per online info. As for Sarah Jane, I don't have any parents for her but the first daughter was Sarah Jane and second son was the abovementioned Samuel, if they happened to follow the naming pattern. I must say there is a gap between first son Matthew (who should be James if they followed the naming pattern) in 1837 and Samuel in 1841 so there could be another son born in there. Sarah Jane Latimer was born abt 1816. Maybe Moneymore since the marriage was there. I really don't know. But thanks again for your help.
Peggy