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Title: 1921 Marriage
Post by: Sueh2 on Thursday 28 April 22 23:48 BST (UK)
Would a couple getting married in the 1920s have needed to show their birth certificates to the vicar or registrar before the ceremony could take place?

Title: Re: 1921 Marriage
Post by: Rosinish on Friday 29 April 22 00:01 BST (UK)
I wouldn't have thought so in normal circumstances but like everything there's always a possibility if it was thought they weren't old enough?

What is your query re the marriage which others may be able to answer?

Annie
Title: Re: 1921 Marriage
Post by: jorose on Friday 29 April 22 10:22 BST (UK)
No. There was no requirement to prove age, or any other details. The notice (at the office) or banns (at the church) partially served as a system where people could alert the authorities in the case of underage marriage, bigamy, etc.

Obviously it was not very efficient a system in big busy cities because people did very often adjust age, make up a father's name, adjust occupations to embiggen themselves (;)) and say they were a widow when he'd actually run off with the neighbour to Canada, etc, etc.
Title: Re: 1921 Marriage
Post by: Sueh2 on Friday 29 April 22 11:51 BST (UK)
I realise that it was easy in the 1800s to just state that you were of full age for marriage without having to provide any proof. Also to change your name or marital status was easy once you were outside an area in which you were known was easy since no proof was needed.

I just wondered at what point a bride and groom were required to prove their ages and names. I have a early 1920s marriage, but cannot find the bride’s birth registration despite knowing all about her parents and grandparents and thought that she might have needed her birth certificate to get married.

Title: Re: 1921 Marriage
Post by: louisa maud on Friday 29 April 22 15:39 BST (UK)
Can you access 1921 census or 1939 registration, this  would  give  you  a  better idea of her birth year, 1939  should  show her  birth  date

Louisa  Maud
Title: Re: 1921 Marriage
Post by: Milliepede on Friday 29 April 22 15:57 BST (UK)
If you can post her name we can have a look for you. 
Title: Re: 1921 Marriage
Post by: louisa maud on Friday 29 April 22 16:28 BST (UK)
Good idea, it always  helps

LM
Title: Re: 1921 Marriage
Post by: Rosinish on Friday 29 April 22 23:12 BST (UK)
Can you access 1921 census or 1939 registration, this  would  give  you  a  better idea of her birth year, 1939  should  show her  birth  date

Louisa  Maud

1921 would give her PoB.

She may have been adopted.

Who did she name as her father on her marriage & his occ?

What was her address on MC?

Witnesses names may also be helpful.

Annie
Title: Re: 1921 Marriage
Post by: Sueh2 on Saturday 30 April 22 08:20 BST (UK)
Thanks everyone, I have her date of birth from 1939 and have her in 1911 and 1921.

BUT I cannot find her birth registration……. I am suspicious and don’t want to post her name so as not to cause any offence to living family. The other sibling born 8 years later is registered and baptised which I find odd.

So I was wondering whether she might at any time have needed her birth certificate like when she got married.
Title: Re: 1921 Marriage
Post by: aghadowey on Saturday 30 April 22 08:40 BST (UK)
Perhaps birth certificate needed for pension?

Have you considered she might have been born overseas or in Scotland or Ireland?
Title: Re: 1921 Marriage
Post by: Rosinish on Monday 02 May 22 20:19 BST (UK)
Have you tried looking for her birth using surname & area only?

I had a relative who's name in 1901 & 1911 was Maggie, no birth found.

I knew she was 'Maggie' as my aunt knew her personally!

My aunt also knew her husband & their surname, that's when I discovered she was registered as Lilian at birth & on marriage but known as Maggie by family  ::)

Annie
Title: Re: 1921 Marriage
Post by: Sueh2 on Monday 02 May 22 22:07 BST (UK)
Thanks for your reply. I have tried thinking “out of the box” but still no luck. We genealogists like a challenge..
Title: Re: 1921 Marriage
Post by: louisa maud on Wednesday 04 May 22 11:01 BST (UK)
If  you   have  found her date of birth on 1939 you can  search the qtr she is showing as  her  birth   year for any  name  that  is familiar , might  take  you awhile  but it  might reveal some results, worth  a  try

LM
Title: Re: 1921 Marriage
Post by: Sueh2 on Wednesday 04 May 22 13:02 BST (UK)
Yes, I have tried that but nothing really jumps out as interesting. I have followed up a few which seemed to be a vague maybe but no luck.

Thanks for your interest
Title: Re: 1921 Marriage
Post by: Rosinish on Wednesday 04 May 22 13:59 BST (UK)
Thanks everyone, I have her date of birth from 1939 and have her in 1911 and 1921.

I am suspicious and don’t want to post her name

What about posting a link to the 1939 register &/or 1911 census with her age & others can take it from there?

Annie

Title: Re: 1921 Marriage
Post by: louisa maud on Wednesday 04 May 22 14:06 BST (UK)
Good idea Annie,  more heads the  better,  am  sure someone will  come  up with  something

LM
Title: Re: 1921 Marriage
Post by: Sueh2 on Wednesday 04 May 22 14:54 BST (UK)
Thanks for all your suggestions and offers of help but as I said earlier I don’t want to post the name as it might upset a closer living relative.

Thanks anyway

Sue