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Hi All
I have been stuck for quite some time on my Dryden Family from Belford, Northumberland. I suspect they are nonconformists. I was lucky recently after having my father do a DNA to finally crack John Dryden b1794 and have now found his parents (at least it seems right and I am DNA linked to at least 2 of his brothers) , although still haven't found a birth or baptism. However, it is John's wife Alice who is the most frustrating. I would just love to be able to have her maiden name to be able to track the line back further.
John and Alice had 4 children that I know of; Isabella bc1814 (my 4 x Gt Grandmother), Elizabeth bc1817, Alice bc1820 and Matilda bc1823. My assumption is that John & Alice must have married around C1813.
Can anyone help finding their marriage, or the baptism of any of the children. Thanks
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Did they wed in Scotland, since Alice seesm to be Scottish?
https://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=GBC/1841/0014511111&expand=true
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Younger Alice baptised 1815 by all accounts.
Presbyterian,Warenford,Northumberland,England
Elizabeth 1813
Isabella 1811
Mary ann 1813
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According to 1851 census Alice was born Belford, Northumberland as per findagrave as well
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/108649317/alice-dryden
John
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Find-a-grave is all user-submitted, so at best a guide.
1841 CLEARLY states Scotland.
That and the absence of a maiden name for Alice wouldn't inspire my confidence
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There is a will of a William Dryden of Belford, proved 15 Oct 1817
Any help with anything?
Wife Isabella
Sons Stephen and John
Daughters Ann and Mary
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-D837-DBH
William Dryden buried 7 Sep 1817, Belford, age 50
Isabella Dryden buried 7 Nov 1817, Belford, age 50 :(
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Death, Sep 1851 Tynemouth 25 288
Dryden, Alice
Age 69
Newcastle Guardian and Tyne Mercury, 6 Sep 1851
Deaths
At Biggs Main, on the 27th ult. aged 69, Alice, wife of Mr. John Dryden.
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Did they wed in Scotland, since Alice seesm to be Scottish?
https://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=GBC/1841/0014511111&expand=true
Thanks for the reply. In answer to your question re being married in Scotland, I really have no idea.
There is a will of a William Dryden of Belford, proved 15 Oct 1817
Any help with anything?
Wife Isabella
Sons Stephen and John
Daughters Ann and Mary
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-D837-DBH
William Dryden buried 7 Sep 1817, Belford, age 50
Isabella Dryden buried 7 Nov 1817, Belford, age 50 :(
I am almost 100% positive these are John's parents. I have 4 strong DNA links to the descendants of Stephen Dryden mentioned in the Will.
Find-a-grave is all user-submitted, so at best a guide.
1841 CLEARLY states Scotland.
That and the absence of a maiden name for Alice wouldn't inspire my confidence
Very much my thoughts too. I hate not being able to trace both sides as the Maternal is as important as the paternal in making me who I am. Alice has been one of my Brickwalls for many years.
Thank you to everyone who has replied. It is very much appreciated. I still live in hope
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John Dryden b1794 and have now found his parents
However, it is John's wife Alice I would just love to be able to have her maiden name
John and Alice had 4 children that I know of; Isabella bc1814 (my 4 x Gt Grandmother), Elizabeth bc1817, Alice bc1820 and Matilda bc1823. My assumption is that John & Alice must have married around C1813.
It would have been helpful to know the names of John's parents too as often children were named after their g/parents.
Can you confirm if any of the 4 children were named after John's parents, if so, which?
The remaining names may be a clue to the names of Alice' parents.
Annie
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daughter Isabella who married Michael Shadforth gave her children unusual middle names
Matilda Montigue 1841
Robert Thwaites 1843
John Dryden 1845
So we know where she got Dryden from but what about Thwaites and Montigue?
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Regarding the will of William Dryden 1817
He also had a son William, mentioned first after wife Isabella so possibly the eldest
Witnesses Andrew Shield, Joseph Borthwick and William Hall
Son Stephen marries a Margaret Shield !
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Do you have these
Newcastle Courant 24 April 1840
At St Hilda's Church on the 20th instant Mr. J Appleby, painter, to Miss Matilda Dryden
Same in Durham County Advertiser on the 24th April except they put on Monday last Mr. Jonathan Appleby. etc.
Newcastle Journal 25th April 1840 - On 20th instant Mr. Jonathan Appleby, painter, to Miss Matilda Dryden
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I have found with parts of my tree that Alice and Alison are interchangeable. Some records have one and others have the other but are the same person.
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Hello Bhx7
Could the missing spouse be Alice Mills who was baptised on 17th October 1790, possibly at St. Ebba Beadnell ? Her parents were James and Sarah Mills from Swinhoe. If this was John Dryden's spouse, her baptism record is in the Bishops Transcript for the Chapelry of Beadnell & Parish of Bamburgh. This would suggest that the Swinhoe in question is the one to the east of the current A1, and not the one west of Belford, as you could assume that the Baptism would have taken place in Belford if she was born in the other Swinhoe, nearer to Belford.
I guess that you are already aware of the 1841 census record for John & Alice Dryden and three of their four daughters, son - in - law (Jonathan Appleby), and grand daughter Mary, living in Wallsend ? Again in 1851 in Little Benton. In both cases listed as being a Saddler.
Not sure if this helps ?