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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: donnaleeseaton on Sunday 24 April 22 05:24 BST (UK)
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Hi there, I know it’s a long shot but wondering if anyone may be planning a visit to Archives Tas in Hobart and could possibly look up the following register of banns, not sure if it is off the shelf volume or on microfilm.
https://librariestas.ent.sirsidynix.net.au/client/en_AU/tas/search/detailnonmodal/ent:$002f$002fARCHIVES_ITEMS$002f0$002fARCHIVES_ITE_DIX:NS349-1-8/email?d=ent%3A%2F%2FARCHIVES_ITEMS%2F0%2FARCHIVES_ITE_DIX%3ANS349-1-8%7E%7E0
Description Register of Banns (https://librariestas.ent.sirsidynix.net.au/client/en_AU/tas/search/detailnonmodal/ent:$002f$002fARCHIVES_ITEMS$002f0$002fARCHIVES_ITE_DIX:NS349-1-8/email?d=ent%3A%2F%2FARCHIVES_ITEMS%2F0%2FARCHIVES_ITE_DIX%3ANS349-1-8%7E%7E0
Description Register of Banns)
Register of Banns - Holy Trinity Hobart
Item Number NS349/1/8
Access Open
Location Hobart A 186 1
Copy Number Z2255
I have the marriage certificate but there is ambiguity in the groom’s surname which I would like to verify against what Surname is recorded on the banns, as I have been unable to confirm death records for either bride or groom.
Bride: Mary Ann ROBINSON
Groom: Henry Dowse PALMER or Henry DOWSE
Marriage: 16 June 1834
Where: Holy Trinity, Hobart
Source https://stors.tas.gov.au/NI/821001
Groom
I know there are some newspaper records of a Henry Palmer DOWSE in Brisbane (1846-1848) and trying to see if they are one and the same person. I have ruled out death of a Henry PALMER in Hobart on 17 Aug 1855, who also had wife and child named Mary Ann, after reading his Will/Probate.
Bride
From witnesses on 1837 and 1852 marriage certificates I believe Mary Ann ROBINSON was born in Hobart on 8 Dec 1817 to parents Edward ROBINSON and Elizabeth BURN.
Child
I believe they had one daughter, Mary Ann PALMER b.12 Mar 1837 / bap.2 Apr 1837 in Hobart, father listed as a Labourer in Hobart, no other information on the parents after that apart from in the child’s marriage notice in Hobart 1852, stating she was the only daughter of Henry PALMER.
Thanks
Donna, Melbourne
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Didn't your 1834 marriage occur nearly a century before the start of those banns (1933-1952)?
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Hi – when I originally found the source listed on page 13 of the “Church Registers held by the AOT” https://stors.tas.gov.au/download/AU-7-0095-02508_1 , the coverage dates next to “Register of Banns” showed 20 Oct 1833 to 27 Jan 1952 so I was assuming the start date listed on their website of 20 Oct 1933 was a typo, I will see if I can contact AOT to verify.
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Hi - I'll check Z2255 (microfilm) during the week. I suspect '1933' is a typo as other entries and the 2011 edition of the index have it as 1833
M
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Thankyou so much Mathew, I'm very grateful, please there is no rush.
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I think this is the information you have already seen.
The record of marriages in Hobart Town, 1830-1835, is inconclusive re his surname.
NAME_INDEXES:821002
Resource: RGD36/1/2 no 2490
https://www.libraries.tas.gov.au/how-to/Pages/Names-Index-content.aspx
The image shown is a some kind of transcript as the entries are all in the same handwriting. His name is recorded as Henry Dowse PALMER but apparently he signed as Henry DOWSE.
No 55, image 135
Henry Dowse Palmer, bachelor,
Mary Ann Robinson, spinster
were married in this church by banns, 16 June, 1834,by me, P Palmer at Hobart Town
Marriage solemnised between us:
Henry Dowse
'the mark X of Mary Ann Robinson.
Witnesses: Caroline Robinson, William Capurn?
Interesting that the officiating minister also has the surname Palmer.
Judith
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Here is the marriage certificate from the original Holy Trinity register (NS349-1-9 off microfilm) Doesn't show any more than the copy unfortunately :-\
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Banns from NS349/1/8 Poor copy from the microfilm but does show full name as Henry Dowse Palmer and he is a convict. Mary Ann Robinson was free.
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I realise that the image I saw (from https://www.libraries.tas.gov.au/how-to/Pages/Names-Index-content.aspx) and I posted in Reply #5, was a copy from the actual register which has been posted by Tas Tyger. On the image of the register Henry has signed his name. His handwriting clearly shows Henry Dowse but that's followed by a long squiggle which, in turn, is overlaid by an underlining which seems to be part of the Rev P Palmer's signature.
So do we assume the squiggly bit is "Palmer"? His two forenames are so carefully written and then that squiggle :-\
Judith
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Thanks everyone for your replies, Judith for your questions/comments, and big thanks to Tas Tyger (and Matthew) for the source documents which have been extremely informative on both information, and to know banns and original non-transcribed marriage registers exist and provide that little bit extra. Possibly I have more questions than answers on this one now, but grateful to know additional information of convict and New Town and another occupation, and will look to see if that can provide further leads. At a very quick glance Palmer/Robinson seem to fall between the cracks with convict marriage permissions CON52-1-1 (starts Oct 1834) or applications for indulgences go up to 1832.
Unfortunately the name Dowse still continues to baffle me and still can’t determine if it has any relevance/link yet to Henry Palmer DOWSE in Qld in the 1840s, or just a coincidental similarity of name.
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Hi.
There was a convict named Henry PALMER who was tried at Old Bailey receiving a 21 year sentence and transported to VDL per Earl St Vincent. He arrived 1826.
https://www.oldbaileyonline.org/
I cannot find his VDL indent.
I am not good at this kind of record search and someone else might do better ;)
Have you looked at him? He might be worth a follow up.
He was one of the lucky few to receive an absolute pardon which meant he could travel anywhere including out of Australia.
https://www.digitalpanopticon.org/life?id=obpt18251027-111-defend607
Sue
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Considering there were only two convicts named Henry Palmer who arrived in VDL and the one per Surrey (3) died in 1836 - https://stors.tas.gov.au/RGD34-1-1p201j2k I’d be pretty confident the Earl St Vincent convict is your man. This convict’s assigned master was a Captain Wilson and there is mention of of a Captain Wilson having residence on the New Town Road - https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/233615162?searchTerm=Captain%20Wilson This would tie in nicely with the residence of Henry Palmer in the1834 Banns.
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Thanks Sue & Tas Tyger,
I had copied the Earl St Vincent records into my “Possibility” files back in 2014, the wheels of progress move slowly! I’ll take another look at that convict record as I see he was listed as a Gent Servant/Groom, and the Banns refer to occ. Servants for both. Thanks also for the tie into Capt. Wilson and new town road, I’ll try and research that further to see if it gives me any leads. I have a gap of more than 2 years between the marriage and birth of only known child which troubles me a little, and nothing on the parents after her birth.
I questioned if I had the right parents (Henry Palmer & Mary Ann Robinson) connected to the child (my 3rd G-Grandmother Mary Ann Palmer b.1837), I checked back on my factual sources I had to support this, I’ve still come to the same conclusion of these parents. I’ve not been able to find any other children by this name born to parents of those names in Hobart at this time.
• MAP birth certificate - 1837, father Henry Palmer, Hobart Town, labourer mother Mary Anne. Cannot find any other children born in the 1830s in Hobart to those parents, apart from family of Henry Palmer & Mary Ann Notley in Launceston (ruled that family out)
• MAP marriage certificate – 1852 in Hobart, age 18 puts her birth ~1834, a witness her uncle Wm Robinson, marriage notice says only daughter of Henry Palmer, Hobart.
• MAP left Tas for Vic ~1856 with her family, was still in Hobart in Jul 1855.
• MAP death certificate - 1902 in Vic, age 66 puts her birth ~1836, born Hobart, married Hobart age 17, father Henry Palmer, mother unknown.
I’ve been reading a well documented blog on a Thomas DOWSE (Sydney/Brisbane) whose diaries had been donated to the John Oxley Library http://tomdowse.blogspot.com/2003/02/thomas-dowse-samuel-pepys-of-early.html , transported out when he was 14 due to his mother’s actions, he was the younger brother of a Henry Palmer DOWSE, this researcher has their family attached to Henry Dowse PALMER (of Tas) as his older brother, and states Henry and his mother emigrated from England to Sydney to be with the younger brother Tom, but having now come to light that we’re looking for someone with a convict past, I dare say there is no linkage between Henry Palmer DOWSE (Syd/Bris) and Henry Dowse PALMER (Tas), that I can see if we’re chasing a convict.
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Have you looked at the 1855 death in Hobart for a Henry Palmer (builder), which mentions a son in New Town?
There seems to be a will associated with this death date, but I am not able to access the image online.
Maybe Tas Tyger can help with the will.
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There are quite few newspaper mentions of Henry Palmer of NewTown being insolvent in 1855
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/2479999?searchTerm=“Henry%20Palmer”
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I would like to mention that on at least two occaisions a person seeming (to me) to be Henry Dowes Palmer has been reported in close connection with Thomas Dowes.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/226462501
And
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/3715344
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Have you looked at the 1855 death in Hobart for a Henry Palmer (builder), which mentions a son in New Town?
There seems to be a will associated with this death date, but I am not able to access the image online.
Maybe Tas Tyger can help with the will.
Hi Neale, I have a full copy of the the Death certificate, Will (made in Melbourne), Codicil and Probate related to this Henry Palmer, d. 17 Aug 1855, he is a Coach Builder, previously residing in Geelong in 1853. Also had a wife named Mary Ann (Notley) m.1824 in England and child named Mary Ann b. 1825 in England, over a dozen children and many daughters. So I ruled this one out based on the wife and daughter and birth/marriage dates, and my Mary Ann (child b.1837 Hobart) was apparently an only daughter per marriage notice in 1852.
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The impression I get- no real evidence- is that Henry left his wife Mary Ann at some point early in the marriage.
The 17 year old bride, his daughter, had as a witness at her marriage to WATSON one William ROBINSON. Not her mother and not her father, another relative perhaps. But the wedding announcement made it clear whose daughter she was.....
I wondered whether the point about her parentage was made lest there be any speculation.... ::)
His absence being somewhat noticeable.
Sue
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Could this be Mary Ann Palmer née Robinson dying in 1850 in Hobart - https://stors.tas.gov.au/RGD35-1-2p278j2k Identified as a carpenter’s wife, age 52, informant was a Frederick Roff, a friend. Age is way off but this Frederick Roff married in 1852 to an Eliza Robinson (sister?) and a Henry Watson was also a witness to the marriage - https://stors.tas.gov.au/RGD37-1-11p133j2k If Henry Palmer was a widower through the 1850s and his only daughter and family are leaving for the mainland circa 1856 it’s possible he went with them so may be looking for him in Victoria?
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There is a public tree for this couple which seems mostly well-researched and has some documentation shown.
Apologies if some of this has already been posted.
The tree gives a death date for Henry Palmer 16 Dec 1877, Launceston and for Mary Ann 6 Nov 1864, Hobart - however there is no link to documentation for these dates.
Mary Ann was born in Hobart, 8 December 1817 (shown on Australian Birth Index)
Mary Ann Robinson
Birth Date: 8 Dec 1817, Tasmania, registered 1818 at Registration Place, Hobart, Tasmania, #581
Her parents were married:
Edward Robinson, Elizabeth Burn, 24 Dec 1816 at Hobart, #245
Edward was a convict (born Lincolnshire) arriving per Indefatigable, 1812. By 1817 he was appointed 'overseer of Government carpenters'
Elizabeth"s birth (from Australian Birth Index), noting date of registration of the birth - perhaps she needed it for her marriage.
Elizabeth Burn
Birth Date1797; Birth Place Tasmania
Registration Year1816, registered at Registration Place, Hobart, Tasmania, #474
Edward and Elizabeth apparently had 8 children.
Judith
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Below is a funeral notice for a Henry Palmer which fits the date given in previous reply - but it may not be the correct person.
The image of the death registration shown seems to me to show his age as 40 or 70 but the index entry says 70 which would be correct for this Henry Palmer.
https://www.libraries.tas.gov.au/how-to/Pages/Names-Index-content.aspx
Deaths, Palmer, Henry, 70
Date of death:
16 Dec 1877, registered Launceston
Record ID:
NAME_INDEXES:1209641
Resource:
RGD35/1/46 no 58
I wish I was clever enough to know how to attach the screen shot!!
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/37153126
FRIENDS are invited to attend the funeral of the late Mr. HENRY PALMER, which will leave his late residence, Quadrant, on TUESDAY (this day), at 4 o'clock.--HILLS, Undertaker, Brisbane-street.
Judith
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All - sorry for such a long reply, but thanks everyone for the leads and feedback which I am methodically working through. So what I have managed to confirm the past week with absolute certainty, just a small part of the puzzle, is that Henry PALMER (Convict Earl St Vincent) is Henry “Palmer” DOWSE, the older brother of Thomas DOWSE of Sydney/Brisbane.
In 1824 younger brother Tom DOWSE, born London, tried at Old Bailey (14yo) for stealing clothes belonging to his brother Henry, his mother Catherine brought charges against him to “teach him a lesson”, sentenced to death / commuted to transport for life to Sydney. Spends 3 years on a prison hulk in England before being transported arriving Sydney in 1828. Checked Old Bailey, Newgate Prison and convict records and found he was an errand boy/milkman for his mother, after their father William (also a milkman) died 3 months earlier. The father had dobbed both sons (Tom and Henry) into the law in previous years for their thieving propensities and associating with a bad crowd in the hope to amend their ways. His mother Catherine comes out to Sydney sometime before 1837, possibly by way of Convict family government immigration scheme.
I then looked into Henry PALMER’s 1825 convict record to see if there were similarities with Henry DOWSE, age/birth etc. Age was spot on however birth place was listed as Chatham, Kent (not London) which threw me, and occupation Gent Servant/Groom, caught stealing a handkerchief in London. Checked Old Bailey, Newgate Prison and earlier convict records and found Henry was also a milkman which he must have taken up this task for his mother after his younger brother’s incarceration. Further investigations reveal their mother’s birthplace came to be Chatham, Kent. So upon being charged in 1825, not 12 months after his brother, and arrival at Newgate Prison, Henry Dowse assumes the Alias Surname of PALMER, making no mention or connection of his real surname Dowse, or his brother Tom who has recently gone through Newgate prison and is still on a prison hulk, no mother at Henry’s trial unlike with his young brother. Henry is transported quite quickly and arrives in Hobart 1826, 2 years ahead of his brother arriving in Sydney.
Fast forward to 1834 and the strange signature and surname on the banns/original marriage certificate which now makes sense, it may have been a slip up on Henry’s part, or to pay homage in some way to his original surname, although still maintaining his convict surname PALMER whilst in Tasmania. I need to fill in some gaps and further research Henry and his time with Captain Wilson, 1834 Ticket of Leave, 1837 daughter born as PALMER, 1838/40? Conditional Pardon, 1842 Free Pardon, 1843 Absolute Pardon, 1846 on Convict Muster….
From Apr 1846 to Aug 1848 (as per Trove newspaper articles) he turns up as Henry Palmer DOWSE, going between Sydney and Morton Bay, Brisbane with his brother. In his brother Tom’s diaries held as SLQ, on two occasions Tom mentions in 1847 “my brother and wife” sailed to/from Brisbane from Sydney. The brothers had a falling out in Aug 1848 in which Tom never wished to see Henry again.
And there the trail goes cold (for the moment). Did Henry and Mary Ann (nee Robinson) return to Hobart or move elsewhere or overseas, did Mary Ann go to Sydney/Brisbane with him or did she pass away in Hobart, did they leave their daughter Mary Ann Palmer in the care of her mother’s Robinson family (her brother William Robinson, sister Susanna Robinson the spinster, sister Eliza Robinson who m. Frederick Roff in 1852 with Henry Watson as witness -- Frederick Roff was also informant on Susanna Robinson's 1852 death certificate and on a William Leach death in 1853, much goings on at 33 Argyle St with Carpenters also and Edward Robinson) am yet to look into that, and have not tied in if or how the 11 Jan 1850 death of Mary Ann Palmer, carpenter's wife age 52 would fit in, but yet another link to a Henry Roff and Argyle St and Carpenters, now knowing Palmer surname to be an alias).
Oh – and I forgot to mention the icing on the cake, after my conclusions above, I happened to check my Ancestry DNA thru-lines and found both my mother and I had at least 3 DNA matches with two of Tom Dowse’s children’s descendant lines, and other descendants of our Tasmanian Palmer/Watson/Robinson line also had DNA matches with Tom Dowse’s children. It seems whilst historical records can somewhat be embellished to hide the truths, may only tell half the story, or offer you bread crumbs, DNA is hard to ignore.
I want to thank everyone for their contributions and advice the past weeks, in which I hope to follow up all the leads you have provided me as I have a few replies from you I have not responded as yet it but have not forgotten, Judith for making me re-evaluate that so carefully written but squiggly signature, Sue and TasTyger for having me re-evaluate the convict record I’d been sitting on for 8 years. Although I haven’t yet found their resting place, at least I can now fill in a few years of their life.
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Hi
That seems a very good untangling of the probable story.
“my brother and wife” sailed to/from Brisbane from Sydney.
Is the name of the wife ever actually mentioned?
It is easy to use the word 'wife' for another relationship or indeed for a bigamous union ;D
Sue
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Hi
That seems a very good untangling of the probable story.
“my brother and wife” sailed to/from Brisbane from Sydney.
Is the name of the wife ever actually mentioned?
It is easy to use the word 'wife' for another relationship or indeed for a bigamous union ;D
Sue
Thanks Sue, unfortunately the transcripts of this diary kindly published by another researcher http://tomdowse.blogspot.com/2003/02/thomas-dowse-diary-selected-entries.html?m=1 do not make mention of the name of Henry's wife. The diary entries "my brother and wife" could also be construed as being Tom's wife, however when I read years of his entries, he most often refers to his wife as Mrs Dowse, or Mrs D.
I have just found a promising shipping record of a Henry Palmer departing Hobart Town on 16 Feb 1846 bound for Sydney, on board Brigg “Louisa” https://stors.tas.gov.au/NI/592802, this would coincide with the Thomas Dowse Diary and first mention I could find of his brother, where Tom writes "Saturday 11th Apr 1846 - Steamer Thistle arrived, Mrs Dowse and Family returned in her. My brother Henry also came down by her", newspapers have them travelling from Sydney to Morton Bay, then Henry returns by himself to Sydney on 26 Apr, then nothing until he returns to Morton Bay a year later on 24 Apr 1847 "with his wife". Henry and wife then return back to Sydney in Aug 1847, Tom stating he sold sundry effects belongings of his brother, who intends going to Sydney. Henry is back and forth to Morton Bay for another year before the falling out of the brothers.
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Baptism: 2 march 1805 at St George the Martyr, Southwark, Surrey,
Henry Dowse born 12 Dec 1805
Parents: Wm and Catherine Dowse
Baptism: 8 Feb 1809 St. John's, Hackney, Middlesex
Thomas Dowse
Parents: William and Catherine Dowse
Burial: 14 May 1824 St Andrew, Holborn, City of London
William Dowse age 49 (born abt 1775)
Marriage: 1799 Christchurch Newgate, London
Catherine Barren to Wm Dowse
Burial: Sydney NSW 1846
Catherine Dowse V184627 31b
Baptism: 13 Apr 1774 Chatham, St Mary, Kent,
Catherine Barren
Parents: Richard and Ann
Alice Dowse: baptism 4 Dec 1811 Hackney (daughter of Catherine and William); burial 4 May 1815 Holborn
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Mrs Dowse goes to Moreton Bay from Sydney on schooner “Edward” Sept 1842
Looks as if she returns in April 1844 on the steamer “sovereign”.
Dec 1847 on board “Tamar” Mrs Dowse goes to Moreton Bay
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Baptisms Chatham St Mary (Kent)
To parents Richard Barren and Ann
17 Nov 1765 – William Barren
7 May 1769 – Ann Barren
27 Mar 1771 – Richard Barren
20 Dec 1772 – James Barren
13 Apr 1774 – Catherine Barren
31 Mar 1776 – Edward Barren
8 Nov 1778 – Mary Barren
9 Dec 1781 – Elizabeth Barren
7 Oct 1787 – John Barren
Marriage Chatham St Mary (Kent)
17 Sept 1763 (by banns)
Richard Barren to Ann Pett. (Bride signs X)
Witnesses: Richard Pett and William Pett
Burials: Gillingham St Mary Magdalene Kent
6 Nov 1793 - Richard Barren age 53, abode Chatham (born abt 1740)
6 Jan 1808 – Ann Barren age 64, abode Chatham (born abt 1744)
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Thanks very much Neale, you've been quite busy :), I'll keep that for later after I've downloaded and entered all my convict stuff. Many thanks.
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This is probably Catherine Dowse coming into the colony.
Ship – “Sir John Rae Reid”
Departing London 6 May 1833
Arriving Sydney 24 Sept 1833
Bound for New South Wales and Van Dieman’s Land
Mrs DOUSE is in steerage in the list of passengers for NSW
Her death notice 1846
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/28649810?searchTerm=Dowse%20AND%20Catherine
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Attached is burial entry for the Mary Ann Palmer who died in 1850. She was buried at St Davids (NS282/11/1/1 - microfilm at Tas Archives) The age given in the burial entry is 32 and that matches pretty closely to Mary Ann Robinson's birth in 1817? I suspect when the original death certificate was copied someone's misinterpreted the 3 for a 5 and that's how they ended up with an age of 52... ::)
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There is a public tree for this couple which seems mostly well-researched and has some documentation shown.
Apologies if some of this has already been posted.
The tree gives a death date for Henry Palmer 16 Dec 1877, Launceston and for Mary Ann 6 Nov 1864, Hobart - however there is no link to documentation for these dates.
Mary Ann was born in Hobart, 8 December 1817 (shown on Australian Birth Index)
Mary Ann Robinson
Birth Date: 8 Dec 1817, Tasmania, registered 1818 at Registration Place, Hobart, Tasmania, #581
Her parents were married:
Edward Robinson, Elizabeth Burn, 24 Dec 1816 at Hobart, #245
Edward was a convict (born Lincolnshire) arriving per Indefatigable, 1812. By 1817 he was appointed 'overseer of Government carpenters'
Elizabeth"s birth (from Australian Birth Index), noting date of registration of the birth - perhaps she needed it for her marriage.
Elizabeth Burn
Birth Date1797; Birth Place Tasmania
Registration Year1816, registered at Registration Place, Hobart, Tasmania, #474
Edward and Elizabeth apparently had 8 children.
Judith
Thanks Judith, I did see this public tree but was not enough info (for me) to understand how they came to the conclusion with those deaths for Henry and Mary Ann, obviously some families have more inside info through their descendants that I may not necessarily have access to. Yes a good possibility for Henry Palmer, at least the age is consistent, definitely 70 as died of senility, I'll see if I can find a will or anything about a billiard maker to see if I can make a connection or rule it out.
However, I don't quite follow the Mary Ann Palmer death they have in 1864, I filtered all the Mary deaths in 1864 until I found record for that date and it was for a Mary Ann Watson, b.~1822 Ireland, boatbuilder's wife (we do have Watsons in our family), but in my eyes I am 99.999% sold on Tas Tyger's 1850 Death for Mary Ann Palmer.
And yes, Elizabeth Burn seems to have been baptised age 19, 5 months before her marriage to Edward Robinson, possibly as the father was not named or unknown, I have not yet investigated the family that far back yet.
Many thanks.
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Attached is burial entry for the Mary Ann Palmer who died in 1850. She was buried at St Davids (NS282/11/1/1 - microfilm at Tas Archives) The age given in the burial entry is 32 and that matches pretty closely to Mary Ann Robinson's birth in 1817? I suspect when the original death certificate was copied someone's misinterpreted the 3 for a 5 and that's how they ended up with an age of 52... ::)
Amazing pickup Tas Tyger, thank you! :o I know I should be 100% sold on this death record. 32 fits perfectly, carpenter's husband makes sense even though I have no other records yet of Henry as a carpenter, and given Mary Ann's father was Overseer of Govt carpenters. I didn't pick up that the death was another copy of an original register. .001% of me would have loved to have seen Frederick (not Henry) Roff as the informant, knowing Frederick is on 2 other family certificates in 1852, Susanna Robinson's death, and his marriage to Eliza Robinson, but given I can't find any Henry Roff's around that time, I should chalk it down to another transcription error on this copy.
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Re the deaths shown on that public tree - as I said, there is no documentation shown to support those dates, and I couldn't find anything although the 1877 Launceston death of a Henry Palmer seems possible. I couldn't find a will for him, nor anything on TROVE that would help.
Mary Ann's family were very early settlers.
Judith
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Just a follow on from Neale's info. There appears to have been an H Dowse travelling from Brisbane to Sydney in 1860 -
Name: H Dowse
Port of Departure: Bresbane Queensland
Port of Arrival: Sydney, New South Wales
Voyage Arrival Date: 2 Mar 1860
Vessel Name: Telegraph
This may be Henry Palmer Dowse? At least another possibility that may be useful in the future?
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Just a follow on from Neale's info. There appears to have been an H Dowse travelling from Brisbane to Sydney in 1860 -
Name: H Dowse
Port of Departure: Bresbane Queensland
Port of Arrival: Sydney, New South Wales
Voyage Arrival Date: 2 Mar 1860
Vessel Name: Telegraph
This may be Henry Palmer Dowse? At least another possibility that may be useful in the future?
Thank you Tas Tyger, I'll save that to my possibility files for future, might come in handy. Many thanks.