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General => Armed Forces => Topic started by: nigelhoulden on Wednesday 20 April 22 10:42 BST (UK)
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Hi,
I'm trying to find information on one of my ancestors. His name was Peter Wright and he was a soldier in the 41st foot, stationed in Ireland. Rank: Private; Service number: 15200 in 1839.
I know he was in Dublin in 1856 as that is when my 2nd great grandmother Drusilla Erina Emily Elizabeth Wright was born.
Any guidance would be appreciated.
Many thanks in advance.
Nige
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Presumably you have seen his discharge papers so you know that he was born in Knutsford circa 1821 and served nearly 3 years in India?
His army number was 1200, not 15200. Mistranscribed by FindMyPast.
In "Kurrachee" in 1841, in Castlebar and Cork in 1851 per muster rolls. Discharged in 1860.
You can track the movements of the regiment via "Stations of the British Army" published monthly in contemporary newspapers.
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Thank you so much for this Shaun, very much appreciated. :)
Presumably you have seen his discharge papers so you know that he was born in Knutsford circa 1821 and served nearly 3 years in India?
His army number was 1200, not 15200. Mistranscribed by FindMyPast.
In "Kurrachee" in 1841, in Castlebar and Cork in 1851 per muster rolls. Discharged in 1860.
You can track the movements of the regiment via "Stations of the British Army" published monthly in contemporary newspapers.
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Welcome to RootsChat.
Was Drusilla the only child born in Ireland?
Was Peter's wife Irish?
You may like to amend the date in title of this topic to "1800's", as Peter wasn't in Ireland in the year 1800, not having been born then. You can amend posts up to 24 hours after posting.
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Drusilla had two brothers that I'm aware of, Theophilus Wright born 1846 Dublin, and Albert Edward Wright born 1851 in Cork.
Peters wife was Ann (Sowe was her maiden name) born in Kington, Herefordshire around 1818.
Thanks again to everyone for their input.
Nige
Welcome to RootsChat.
Was Drusilla the only child born in Ireland?
Was Peter's wife Irish?
You may like to amend the date in title of this topic to "1800's", as Peter wasn't in Ireland in the year 1800, not having been born then. You can amend posts up to 24 hours after posting.
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Theophilus Wright born 1846 Dublin, and Albert Edward Wright born 1851 in Cork.
Both born at Spike Island (Cork) per the army regimental births index. Albert in 1849.
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I can’t help you with your research but I can thank you for a good laugh at my own expense!
I read the title of your query in the Unread Posts ,and wondered what in earth a forty one stone foot was doing in Ireland?
From a gargantuan statue ?
Phew ,I looked and then realised my mistake .
Need two cups of tea before fully awake!
Off to make one asap.
Thanks ;D ;D
Viktoria.
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Do you know religious denomination of the family?
There are some Wright baptisms on Irish Genealogy.ie
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en
Where & when did Peter and Ann marry?
I read the title of your query in the Unread Posts ,and wondered what in earth a forty one stone foot was doing in Ireland?
From a gargantuan statue ?
Perhaps something to do with Finn McCool. He was legendary for moving massive stones around. ;D
(Nigel, ignore this last part, it's just Viktoria and I being silly, something you'll get used to on RootsChat.)
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:D :D It's fine, I think being related to a giant could be very interesting!!
Unfortunately I don't know when they were married but I believe it was in the Isle of Man, something I'm still trying to find out for sure.
Do you know religious denomination of the family?
There are some Wright baptisms on Irish Genealogy.ie
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en
Where & when did Peter and Ann marry?
I read the title of your query in the Unread Posts ,and wondered what in earth a forty one stone foot was doing in Ireland?
From a gargantuan statue ?
Perhaps something to do with Finn McCool. He was legendary for moving massive stones around. ;D
(Nigel, ignore this last part, it's just Viktoria and I being silly, something you'll get used to on RootsChat.)
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In "Kurrachee" in 1841, in Castlebar and Cork in 1851 per muster rolls. Discharged in 1860.
You can track the movements of the regiment via "Stations of the British Army" published monthly in contemporary newspapers.
Karachi? Captured by British 1839. Annexed, along with Sindh province 1842. Became a Br. Army HQ.
https://www.britannica.com/place/Karachi/History
Was the regiment in Afghanistan and Crimea* during Peter Wright's service? How many battalions were in the regiment?
Coincidently, an ancestor of mine married a soldier named Wright who was at Castlebar barracks 40 years later.
*Added. Crimean War October 1853-Feb. 1856. Britain declared war in March 1854.
Stations of the British Army 3rd Feb. 1855
41st. Crimea. Regiment's depot was Templemore.
Stations of the British Army 28th April 1856
41st. Crimea - Templemore, Chatham
Does this mean the regiment had depots at Templemore and Chatham or that it had embarked for Chatham from the Crimea? **
Stations of the British Army 1st Feb. 1857
41st. Shorncliffe
Shorncliffe is on Kent coast, at Folkstone..44th also there.
**Amendment. Chatham is a transcription error. See my reply #14.
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Stations of the British Army. Where 2 places are mentioned, 2nd is the regiment's depot.
41st. Regiment
31st January 1846 Dublin (Returned from Madras, July 1843)
1st January 1847 (?not sure of year) Mullingar
28th July 1847 Mullingar
1st May 1850 Cork
1st April 1852 Corfu - Boyle (Boyle is in County Roscommon)
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Stations of the British Army 28th April 1856
41st. Crimea - Templemore, Chatham
Does this mean the regiment had depots at Templemore and Chatham or that it had embarked for Chatham from the Crimea?
What newspaper is that? The ones I can find for that week show "41st: Crimea, Templemore"
Peter Wright didn't go to the Crimea so was presumably with the depot company in Ireland.
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Stations of the British Army 28th April 1856
41st. Crimea - Templemore, Chatham
What newspaper is that? The ones I can find for that week show "41st: Crimea, Templemore"
Peter Wright didn't go to the Crimea so was presumably with the depot company in Ireland.
"Boston Pilot" 31st May 1856. Source was "United Services Gazette".
"Boston Pilot" was founded 1829 and was a major source of news for the Irish immigrant community.
Added. Amendment. 41st wasn't at Chatham. See my reply #14.
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Stations of the British Army 28th April 1856
41st. Crimea - Templemore, Chatham
Peter Wright didn't go to the Crimea so was presumably with the depot company in Ireland.
The barracks in Templemore, Tipperary had a church, hospital and military prison. Near Templemore railway station, enabling rapid troop movement around the province of Munster.
Barrack master in Slater's Directory of Ireland 1856 was Lt. Greaves Ackland. 2 women with surname Wright kept a boarding school in the town. Plenty of boot & shoe makers and stockists of spirits in Templemore.
1,300 men from the barracks attended Templemore races in April 1856. A major fight broke out between soldiers and other racegoers.
Irish newspapers can be a good source for finding out what regiments were doing.
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Stations of the British Army 28th April 1856
41st. Crimea - Templemore, Chatham
Does this mean the regiment had depots at Templemore and Chatham or that it had embarked for Chatham from the Crimea?
What newspaper is that? The ones I can find for that week show "41st: Crimea, Templemore"
Chatham for 41st regiment isn't correct. I copied a transcription error. 43rd regiment, next on the list, had depot at Chatham. So did 35th, 37th, and 45th.
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1,300 men from the barracks attended Templemore races in April 1856. A major fight broke out between soldiers and other racegoers.
Templemore was depot for at least 3 other regiments at the time.
A website Irish Garrison Towns has a lot of background information about the army in Ireland.
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Hi
My gg grandfather was in the 41st Welch Regiment of Foot, which was renamed the 41st Welsh Regiment of Foot and THEN renamed with different numbers.
I believe he was part of the FIRST Anglo Sikh War between the British Empire and Sikh empire, which explains why he was in Madras and returned to Dublin in 1843.
Mullingar is where my gg grandfather signed his attestation papers for the Crimea war, Is that possibly near Athlone Barracks?
I literally have a brain injury so hope I understand what you are asking. My advice is to look at the 41st Welch Regiment of Foot, which I think changes names to something like the 87th, but you will be able to follow where they where and which battles they were involved in. For him to NOT go to the Crimea War in 1854, means he could have been injured in the First Sikh War and pensioned, so there may be a mention of a pension district.
Stations of the British Army. Where 2 places are mentioned, 2nd is the regiment's depot.
41st. Regiment
31st January 1846 Dublin (Returned from Madras, July 1843)
1st January 1847 (?not sure of year) Mullingar
28th July 1847 Mullingar
1st May 1850 Cork
1st April 1852 Corfu - Boyle (Boyle is in County Roscommon)
I would look at the archives online in the UK, NOT in Ireland, the services fought under the UK banner, so the records are held in England too, they are online.
Otherwise, ask and I will see if I can help you further. My gg grandfather served in Crimea and was pensioned by 22 years old. So they get assigned back to a pension district because they have to go to teh barracks to receive their pension every 6 months?
Hope that helps a bit xx
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Mullingar Barracks-
https://www.buildingsofireland.ie/buildings-search/building/15310007/columb-barracks-ashe-road-mullingar-mullingar-westmeath#:~:text=The%20site%20for%20the%20barracks,in%20these%20two%20barrack%20buildings.
and
https://columbbarracksproject.ie/history/
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Mullingar is where my gg grandfather signed his attestation papers for the Crimea war, Is that possibly near Athlone Barracks?
Distance between Mullingar and Athlone is approximately 25 miles.
Railway line between the 2 towns opened 1851.
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My gg grandfather was in the 41st Welch Regiment of Foot, which was renamed the 41st Welsh Regiment of Foot and THEN renamed with different numbers.
My advice is to look at the 41st Welch Regiment of Foot, which I think changes names to something like the 87th, but you will be able to follow where they where and which battles they were involved in.
I would look at the archives online in the UK, NOT in Ireland, the services fought under the UK banner, so the records are held in England too, they are online.
National Army Museum. 41st (Welch) Regiment of Foot. Brief history. Amalgamated into The Welsh Regiment in 1881.
https://www.nam.ac.uk/explore/41st-welch-regiment-foot
The National Archives. Research guides.
"How to look for records of British Army soldiers up to 1913"
https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/british-army-soldiers-up-to-1913/
There was a joint army establishment from the Act of Union 1800.
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I'm trying to find information on one of my ancestors. His name was Peter Wright and he was a soldier in the 41st foot, stationed in Ireland.
I know he was in Dublin in 1856 as that is when my 2nd great grandmother Drusilla Erina Emily Elizabeth Wright was born.
Birth of a man's baby isn't evidence that the man was there at the time. His presence wasn't necessary. :)