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Title: James Denning and his Mother Mary.Dorking,Surrey
Post by: woodentop on Saturday 09 April 22 09:27 BST (UK)
I am trying to find out more about James Denning (base-born) Dec 1805 Dorking, Surrey.  His mother is Mary Denning according to the christening register. I have found out a fair bit about his adult life  but I am trying to find out more about his childhood:where he was brought up;if and where he served an apprenticeship or indentured;addresses he lived at, ect?
Iam also trying to find out about his mother Mary Denning:was Mary in service as a servant;where was she born;didshe eventually marry;what happened to her after the birth of her son, ect?
I have had my DNA done and typed in the name of Denning and the connections of a Denning name from Somerset seem strong they also share DNA with others and I that have James Denning as a common relative. However I cannot find a Mary Denning that fits the age range. Can anyone help?
Are there any records kept of who might of been in service, poor records, adoption records between the years of 1800 and 1825?
Title: Re: James Denning and his Mother Mary.Dorking,Surrey
Post by: Milliepede on Saturday 09 April 22 10:20 BST (UK)
Tricky isn't it. there is a Mary Denning abode workhouse who died in 1815 age 30.
Burial St George Middlesex.

We don't know how old the mother of James was when he was born do we?  If she was 20 that might fit but not much information to go on  :-\
Title: Re: James Denning and his Mother Mary.Dorking,Surrey
Post by: woodentop on Saturday 09 April 22 10:29 BST (UK)
I do not know how old she was. I have found several records of births of a Mary Denning and I have also found the record that you are talking about. It is the missing years that I am interested in, as this might give more information. I am trying to find out about thier story more than anything. I suppose I really want to know about records of where they lived. Many thanks for looking.
Title: Re: James Denning and his Mother Mary.Dorking,Surrey
Post by: jonwarrn on Saturday 09 April 22 11:37 BST (UK)
Witnesses to James Denning's (apparent) first marriage in Shere in 1831 are Charles Chitty, Ann Chitty.
Marriage at Dorking, 26 Nov 1806
William Chitty + Ann Denning
Both single and of the parish

Baptisms following there, including Ann and Charles.

Is Ann Denning a relative of Mary?
Or is it possible even that Mary is Ann?
Title: Re: James Denning and his Mother Mary.Dorking,Surrey
Post by: jonwarrn on Saturday 09 April 22 11:54 BST (UK)
Later baptisms to William and Ann(e) have abode Ranmore Common.
William Chitty, 64, Publican, and three children living at Ranmore Common in 1841. Parish Great Bookham.
Burial at Great Bookham, 8 January 1841, Ann Chitty, age 56. Abode Gt Bookham.
Title: Re: James Denning and his Mother Mary.Dorking,Surrey
Post by: woodentop on Saturday 09 April 22 12:04 BST (UK)
I did note the witnesses names. I also have a few dna relatives that have  Chitty family from Surrey. So this might be an area to explore. Perhaps her name was Mary Ann.
Title: Re: James Denning and his Mother Mary.Dorking,Surrey
Post by: jonwarrn on Saturday 09 April 22 12:05 BST (UK)
Hi
More witnesses connections for you?
Second marriage of James Denning (widower) to Maria Ann Knight, 5 Oct 1836, Dorking.
Witnesses Henry Weller, Ann Weller

Those two witnessed the marriage of Charles Chitty to Ann Lifford in Mickleham in August of the same year.
Henry and Ann Weller had large signatures!

Children baptized to James and Maria Denning in Mickleham in 1839 and 1840.
Title: Re: James Denning and his Mother Mary.Dorking,Surrey
Post by: jonwarrn on Saturday 09 April 22 12:08 BST (UK)
Marriage at Great Bookham,14 January 1833.
Henry Weller + Ann Chitty

Charles Chitty was a witness.
Title: Re: James Denning and his Mother Mary.Dorking,Surrey
Post by: jonwarrn on Saturday 09 April 22 12:22 BST (UK)
Marriage at Great Bookham,14 January 1833.
Henry Weller + Ann Chitty

They are in Ranmore Common, Great Bookham, in 1841. Henry Weller is a wheelwright.
Living next door to William Chitty the publican!


Title: Re: James Denning and his Mother Mary.Dorking,Surrey
Post by: woodentop on Saturday 09 April 22 12:28 BST (UK)
Perhaps not a Chitty then. I wonder if there are any records kept of people in service.
I definitely think Mary was a Denning as there are Dna matches of the Denning family and some are matched that are further back than fourth to fifth cousins.
Title: Re: James Denning and his Mother Mary.Dorking,Surrey
Post by: jonwarrn on Saturday 09 April 22 12:56 BST (UK)
Mary was a Denning.
Ann was a Denning who became Chitty, and her Chitty family must be connected to James, I would think.

I'm not seeing much for the name Denning in the Dorking area.
I think it's possible that Mary and Ann were sisters.
Or even perhaps that Ann was recorded as Mary in error on James' baptism :-\
Title: Re: James Denning and his Mother Mary.Dorking,Surrey
Post by: woodentop on Saturday 09 April 22 14:48 BST (UK)
That is interesting to know. Thank you. It looks like feet on the ground for this one.perhaps a trip to the local family history society or local genealogy society.