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Title: Daniel Morrison Glasgow Scotland
Post by: Rhm on Tuesday 29 March 22 00:49 BST (UK)
Hello
I'm amazed at how much information on a person is found by people on this site.
So I'm going to try my luck as I haven't found much myself.
I am looking for some information on my grandparents genealogies.
They lived in Glasgow Scotland.
My grandfather was Daniel Morrison and he was killed in the 1st World War (buried in France) leaving my grandmother Isabella (née McGee) with a young child, a baby really, my father who was also called Daniel Morrison.
My Dad was raised in the Gorballs where he had other relatives- the Weldons and the Blacks.
Thank you in advance for any information.
Title: Re: Daniel Morrison Glasgow Scotland
Post by: maddys52 on Tuesday 29 March 22 09:35 BST (UK)
Hello Rhm and welcome to RootsChat.

I'm not an expert on Scottish research, however, looking on Scotlands People (free to search, though you need to register and buy credits to download certificates)
https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

there is their marriage in 1911 ref no 644/17 369 at Gorbals.

If you buy credits on the website you can see the image of the marriage certificate and it should give their parents' names.  :D

I'll ask a moderator to move your post to the Glasgow board, I'm sure you'll receive more help there.  :D
Title: Re: Daniel Morrison Glasgow Scotland
Post by: garstonite on Tuesday 29 March 22 09:52 BST (UK)
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Title: Re: Daniel Morrison Glasgow Scotland
Post by: Lodger on Tuesday 29 March 22 11:36 BST (UK)
Can you give any details of the Weldon family? I had Weldon's in the Springburn and Townhead districts of the city, perhaps one of them went over to the Gorbals?
Title: Re: Daniel Morrison Glasgow Scotland
Post by: ciderdrinker on Tuesday 29 March 22 13:06 BST (UK)
Hi
It looks like there is a pension record on Ancestry
Daniel Morrison born 18 Sep 1914 son of Daniel
Guardian Isabel Mand

It's on Fold 3 so I can't take a look.

He may have been the private Daniel Morrison died 20.7.1916 Caeronian Scottish Rifles but I can't be sure.

Ciderdrinker
Title: Re: Daniel Morrison Glasgow Scotland
Post by: Neale1961 on Tuesday 29 March 22 16:24 BST (UK)
The following soldier's will is available on Scotlands People

Morrison    Daniel
20/07/1916
A/7234
Private
Cameronians (Scottish Rifles)
Title: Re: Daniel Morrison Glasgow Scotland
Post by: Forfarian on Tuesday 29 March 22 16:52 BST (UK)
Your starting point is that marriage certificate. Have you viewed it yet? What does it tell you?
Title: Re: Daniel Morrison Glasgow Scotland
Post by: Rhm on Tuesday 29 March 22 20:48 BST (UK)
Thank you everyone. I have registered with Scotlands People as suggested and will buy credits to view the marriage certificate.
The Daniel Morrison who was with Scottish Rifles was my Grandfather. I have some photographs of him in the Unit as well as a photo of him in uniform taken with my Grandmother and Father before he left for France in WW1
Many many thanks for your replies
Rhm
Title: Re: Daniel Morrison Glasgow Scotland
Post by: Wendy2305 on Tuesday 29 March 22 21:25 BST (UK)
This all will need to be checked with certificates from Scotland's People but as a start using the index on Scotland People there's one McGee Weldon marriage in the Gorbals in 1890 Elizabeth Weldon and William McGee according to the 1901 census they have 3 children Lizzie 9 Bella 7 and William 4 There is a birth in Gorbals 1894 of Isabella McGee
In the Gorbals in 1917 an Isabella McGee or Morrison marries a Thomas March
According to the 1901 census on Ancestry William McGee was 33 born about 1868 Glasgow and his wife Lizzie same age born Ireland
There is also 7 family trees with William and Elizabeth on Ancestry
Title: Re: Daniel Morrison Glasgow Scotland
Post by: Rhm on Tuesday 29 March 22 21:35 BST (UK)
Thank you Wendy. As advised I bought credits on Scotlands People and viewed the marriage certificate of my Grandparents. What you posted adds so much to that info. On a visit to Scotland in 1970 I met some Weldon cousins of my Fathers and I now see where they fit in.
My Granny Isabella was 17 when she married so the 1894 birth fits.

Thank you everyone who have added to my search.
Rhm
Title: Re: Daniel Morrison Glasgow Scotland
Post by: Neale1961 on Tuesday 29 March 22 21:50 BST (UK)
If you let us know the information on the marriage certificate, it should be possible to find information for your about earlier ancestors.
Your grandfathers soldier’s Will is also on Scotlands people.
Title: Re: Daniel Morrison Glasgow Scotland
Post by: Rhm on Wednesday 30 March 22 00:58 BST (UK)
Information on the marriage certificate:
Grandads Mother was Christina Morrison who subsequently married William Clancy. Christina's first husband ( Grandads father) is not mentioned.
Granny Isabella's parents are named as William McGee and Isabella McGee née Weldon
Title: Re: Daniel Morrison Glasgow Scotland
Post by: Rhm on Wednesday 30 March 22 01:07 BST (UK)
Sorry- That should be William McGee married Elizabeth Weldon
Title: Re: Daniel Morrison Glasgow Scotland
Post by: Wendy2305 on Wednesday 30 March 22 01:13 BST (UK)
Daniel was born 5 Jul 1891 registered in Blackfriars Glasgow unfortunately no father's name transcribed on Ancestry but there maybe a RCE attached to his birth entry on Scotland People which will name the father
Title: Re: Daniel Morrison Glasgow Scotland
Post by: Neale1961 on Wednesday 30 March 22 01:27 BST (UK)
Daniel Morrison birth
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTFS-P8J
No father named would possibly indicate it was an illegitimate birth.

The certificate for Christina’s marriage to William Clancy in 1900 may tell you if she had been married previously. It would also give you her parents' names.
CLANCY   WILLIAM   
MORRISON   CHRISTINA   
1900       644/5 310   Blackfriars   
Title: Re: Daniel Morrison Glasgow Scotland
Post by: Neale1961 on Wednesday 30 March 22 01:33 BST (UK)
1901 census Cavendish Place Glasgow
William Clancy Head, married, age 27 born Ireland, ship builders labourer
Christina Clancy, wife, age 28, born Glasgow
Daniel Clancy, Son, age 9, born Glasgow (this will be Daniel Morrison)
Title: Re: Daniel Morrison Glasgow Scotland
Post by: Rhm on Wednesday 30 March 22 01:37 BST (UK)
Yes, I ordered the birth records of Daniel Morrison (Grandad ) and it appears to have been noted as an illegitimate birth.
I guess I should then carry on with gathering genealogy information for his mother Christina.

So interesting and all this info in a single day! Thank you
Title: Re: Daniel Morrison Glasgow Scotland
Post by: Neale1961 on Wednesday 30 March 22 01:44 BST (UK)
Yes Christina's marriage certificate to W. Clancy would be your next step. :)
Title: Re: Daniel Morrison Glasgow Scotland
Post by: Rosinish on Wednesday 30 March 22 01:56 BST (UK)
Your g/f Daniel is on the 1901 census as Daniel Clancy...

Members     Age   Rel

William Clancy 27 Head b Ireland
Christina Clancy   28 Wife b Glasgow
Daniel Clancy 9   Son b Glasgow

Reg No. 644/12
Registration district Gorbals
Civil parish Glasgow Govan
County Lanarkshire
Address 9 Cavendish Place
ED 20
Sch 150
Line   2
Roll CSSCT1901_314

Annie

Title: Re: Daniel Morrison Glasgow Scotland
Post by: Rosinish on Wednesday 30 March 22 02:00 BST (UK)
the birth records of Daniel Morrison (Grandad ) and it appears to have been noted as an illegitimate birth.

Did you notice if there was a RCE with the BC which you'd have to click on separately?

Annie
Title: Re: Daniel Morrison Glasgow Scotland
Post by: Neale1961 on Wednesday 30 March 22 02:05 BST (UK)
1901 Census Clyde Tce, Gorbals, Glasgow
William McGee, head, married, 33, born Glasgow, Builder’s labourer
Lizzie W. McGee, wife, 33, born Ireland
Lizzie McGee daughter, 9, born Glasgow
Bella McGee, daughter, 7, born Glasgow
William J. McGee son, 4, born Glasgow
Mary Cox or Kelly widow, 56, charwoman, born Paisley Renfrewshire
Pat Weldon boarder, single, 31 builders labourer, born Ireland

Looks as if the Weldon family may have come from Ireland.
Title: Re: Daniel Morrison Glasgow Scotland
Post by: Neale1961 on Wednesday 30 March 22 02:35 BST (UK)
Not sure if this is the correct family, but seems probable  ....

1881 Census 91 Aitkenhead Road, Hutchesontown
Patrick Weldon, head, married, 30, born Ireland, general labourer
Elizabeth Weldon, wife, married, 40, born Ireland
Thomas Weldon, son, 16, born Ireland, iron rivitter
Mary E. Weldon, daughter, 13, born Ireland, general domestic (later called Lizzie)
Patrick J. Weldon, son, 11, born Ireland

Weldon Irish births
-   Thomas WELDON born 16 Apr 1865 (Clogher) Patrick WELDON (Innkeeper) and Elizabeth McCANN
-   Mary Elizabeth WELDON born 16 Dec 1867 (Clogher, Tyrone) Patrick WELDON (Innkeeper) and Elizabeth McCANN
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1868/03452/2267322.pdf
-   Patrick John born 20 Dec 1869 (Clogher) Patrick WELDON (Innkeeper) and Elizabeth McCANN


Mother Elizabeth WELDON (nee McCANN) died 1891
Death certificate
WELDON   ELIZABETH   age 47   
Mother maiden name: MURPHY   
1891   644/11 175   Hutchesontown

Marriage certificate will confirm if this is correct family above
WELDON  ELIZABETH - marriage
MCGEE   WILLIAM
1890
644/12 9     Gorbals

(Corrected typos.)
Title: Re: Daniel Morrison Glasgow Scotland
Post by: Rhm on Wednesday 30 March 22 03:10 BST (UK)
@Annie it's not actually a birth certificate but looks like a register of births
@ Neale thank you I will order certificates and check as you suggest.
Thanks everyone who has posted. Will follow all suggestions.
Cheers Rhm
Title: Re: Daniel Morrison Glasgow Scotland
Post by: Rosinish on Wednesday 30 March 22 03:25 BST (UK)
@Annie it's not actually a birth certificate but looks like a register of births

Was it from the Parish Records (Birth/Baptism) or the Statutory Records (Birth)?

If it was the Statutory records there will be only 3 on the page, if more than 3 then it was the Parish Records.

Annie

Title: Re: Daniel Morrison Glasgow Scotland
Post by: garstonite on Wednesday 30 March 22 07:07 BST (UK)
Thank you everyone. I have registered with Scotlands People as suggested and will buy credits to view the marriage certificate.
The Daniel Morrison who was with Scottish Rifles was my Grandfather. I have some photographs of him in the Unit as well as a photo of him in uniform taken with my Grandmother and Father before he left for France in WW1
Many many thanks for your replies
Rhm

when Isabella re married in 1919 and became Mrs March- did Daniel aged 5 keep the name Morrison ?
Title: Re: Daniel Morrison Glasgow Scotland
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Wednesday 30 March 22 09:45 BST (UK)
Hi, Neale


Weldon Irish births
-   Thomas WELDON born 16 Apr 1865 (Cloger) Patrick WELDON (Innkeeper) and Elizabeth McCANN
-   Mary Elizabeth WELDON born 16 Dec 1867 (Cloger, Tyrone) Patrick WELDON (Innkeeper) and Elizabeth McCANN
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1868/03452/2267322.pdf
-   Patrick John born 20 Dec 1869 (Cloger) Patrick WELDON (Innkeeper) and Elizabeth McCANN


It's actually spelt Clogher.

Civil parish of Clogher, Co. Tyrone
https://www.townlands.ie/tyrone/clogher1/
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/5483682#map=15/54.4146/-7.1621


KG

Title: Re: Daniel Morrison Glasgow Scotland
Post by: Neale1961 on Wednesday 30 March 22 10:22 BST (UK)
Thanks for picking up my typing error - the perils of a small screen and one finger typing. :)
Title: Re: Daniel Morrison Glasgow Scotland
Post by: garstonite on Wednesday 30 March 22 10:33 BST (UK)
Thanks for picking up my typing error - the perils of a small screen and one finger typing. :)

AND - men struggle typing - big hands / fingers ..lost count of the times I type an s and when i read it back it says ss