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Title: beginners blunders on tree
Post by: brigidmac on Friday 25 March 22 12:35 GMT (UK)
I was trying to figure out why I wasn't getting DNA thru lines to someone who is obviously a 3rd cousin .matches my mother and her cousin at second cousin level too.

So I checked their tree
They'd put spouse as home person !

So of course the bio parents and grandparents won't show as  linear match .!

But what really made me laugh when they opened up tree for me to see living people too

 was the spouse was themself....same name gender and birth ... but no parents .

I broke it too them gently that they'd have to go through an amical separation with their clone  😂
 
Title: Re: Hilarious Tree beginner's Blunder
Post by: Kiltpin on Friday 25 March 22 16:36 GMT (UK)
I Am My Own Grandpa 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2akFlmUe3g (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2akFlmUe3g) 

Regards 

Chas
Title: Re: Hilarious Tree beginner's Blunder
Post by: brigidmac on Friday 25 March 22 21:16 GMT (UK)
 ha ha ha Thanks for sharing that kiltpin ..I sang + laughed along

what would their dna  results show ???

next no no 

the person managed to unclone themselves leaving the one linked to tree floating and the home person with no relatives

I hope its corrected now via  my emailed step by step instructions ..
have to wait for ancestry to realign itself + see if the thru lines will come






Title: Re: Hilarious Tree beginner's Blunder
Post by: Jill on the A272 on Friday 25 March 22 23:12 GMT (UK)
I don't see why you feel the need to mock a novice.
Title: Re: Hilarious Tree beginner's Blunder
Post by: sparrett on Friday 25 March 22 23:20 GMT (UK)
Taking a gentle rise out of a beginner probably takes many of us back to the time we were also beginners and reminds us of our own hilarious blunders.

My own includes searching extensively for someone whose name was Elizabeth UNK.. Such an unusual surname.

The remarks and themes of this thread are more than counterbalanced by the incredible work  done  here by volunteers to assist those establishing solid and accurate family histories.
Sue
Title: Re: Hilarious Tree beginner's Blunder
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Friday 25 March 22 23:29 GMT (UK)
I don't see why you feel the need to mock a novice.

I totally agree, we at one point have all been there, all bit sad really
Title: Re: Hilarious Tree beginner's Blunder
Post by: Kiltpin on Saturday 26 March 22 00:22 GMT (UK)
"I broke it to them gently that they'd have to go through an amicable separation with their clone." 

I don't see any mocking. 

Regards 

Chas
Title: Re: Hilarious Tree beginner's Blunder
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Saturday 26 March 22 00:44 GMT (UK)
Would the poster tag this thread to their contact in how their inexperience is seen as humour. I think not!

We all start somewhere, hopefully we have mentors along the way that do not post the error and enjoy with others poking fun at the inexperienced who do not know the error. Where we all were at least once at times.

How would you feel, if it was you and you knew this thread was active and was inexperience to know your error. Or maybe had learning issues that made it difficult. 

Laughing with others is good. Laughing at others is not!
Title: Re: Hilarious Tree beginner's Blunder
Post by: youngtug on Saturday 26 March 22 06:38 GMT (UK)
This is a public forum, there is the possibility that the tree owner will see this thread and put 2 and 2 together. Not everyone can handle even gentle mocking easily. Maybe it would be wise to remove this thread.
Title: Re: Hilarious Tree beginner's Blunder
Post by: LizzieL on Saturday 26 March 22 07:05 GMT (UK)
I don't see why you feel the need to mock a novice.

Perhaps it was caused by an Ancestry glitch, or the tree owner's unfamiliarity with the software. I've found it is too easy to attach people to the wrong couple (when there are multiple marriages) or assign them the wrong gender when doing a quick edit.
Title: Re: Hilarious Tree beginner's Blunder
Post by: brigidmac on Saturday 26 March 22 08:51 GMT (UK)
Yes it certainly wasn't meant to mock in fact it's something that can happen to experienced people while making changes .

It was more the situation I was laughing at like kiltpins song

Good news is : their thru lines are now showing

Bad news is : ancestry suggests his grandmother who is the crucial link between the trees is a baby  who died age 1

*Thanks to Chas. Sparrett Liz  who defended the suggestion that I would  Mock someone who I'm helping 

# +   thanks tug  Jill cas for defending novices .
if I remove thread I'd lose kiltpins song and the warning about  attaching correct home person .
If you  PM me and I can modified any potential offensive comments (the person concerned saw funny side and I make same mistakes myself so am laughing WITHthem  not AT them )

#We can all learn from mistakes and mistakes can be funny 😉
Title: Re: Hilarious Tree beginner's Blunder
Post by: brigidmac on Saturday 26 March 22 08:58 GMT (UK)
Btw This Is THE LIGHTER SIDE forum

I  have told the tree owner who doesn't mind others learning from their mistakes and has little time to work on their tree let alone join rootschat

As Lizzie says with marriages in USA and England it's very easy to make mistakes because ancestry suggests the record but often has the spouse as secondary

I've done it  several times myself and have found a lady married to her husband and then to herself as well  ! & If forget to modify at the time it stays that way on her family description
Title: Re: Hilarious Tree beginner's Blunder
Post by: brigidmac on Saturday 26 March 22 13:42 GMT (UK)
I've taken to adding smiley faces when I comment on posts with my quirky humour , ;D

Just in case !
Title: Re: Hilarious Tree beginner's Blunder
Post by: youngtug on Saturday 26 March 22 13:50 GMT (UK)
Not having all the relevant information I made an assumption, something I try not to do. But, hey, everybody makes mistakes. If they are willing participants in the humour on here, that's fine
Title: Re: Hilarious Tree beginner's Blunder
Post by: brigidmac on Saturday 26 March 22 21:44 GMT (UK)
Im thinking of doing a funny story about Family research ..in general no names mentionned at comedy club zoom we.re always looking for music for the break so i think   " I am my own grandpa "song will be perfect kiltpin

do you know one called " im 94 today" my aunt actually sang it by heart on her 94th birthday with the appropriate scottish accent

any other suggestions ?
Title: Re: Hilarious Tree beginner's Blunder
Post by: Josephine on Sunday 27 March 22 04:14 BST (UK)
My own includes searching extensively for someone whose name was Elizabeth UNK.. Such an unusual surname.

I puzzled over that "surname" for quite a while, too!  :D
Title: Re: Hilarious Tree beginner's Blunder
Post by: groom on Sunday 27 March 22 12:35 BST (UK)
Yes it certainly wasn't meant to mock in fact it's something that can happen to experienced people while making changes .



Maybe just remove the word "Hilarious" from the title, then everyone will be satisfied?

Title: Re: Hilarious Tree beginner's Blunder
Post by: brigidmac on Sunday 27 March 22 15:10 BST (UK)
Good idea Groom

But maybe some would get offended because their comments no longer make sense 😂
+ It will be too late for them to remove or modify their comments as more than 48 hours ago

I  could ask admin..... 
What a quandary .

Meanwhile my novice is getting closer to correct generation ancestry thru line suggestions have gone from a grandma who died as a baby
To a father ...same name ..who died in war ...20 years before they were born .


Title: Re: beginners blunders on tree
Post by: groom on Monday 28 March 22 12:03 BST (UK)
I think it really goes back to beginners nor realising that hints are just that - hints, and they need to be verified before accepting. They think because Ancestry, Findmypast or other sites have given them that they must be correct and don't look at dates. 
Title: Re: beginners blunders on tree
Post by: coombs on Monday 28 March 22 12:59 BST (UK)
I bet some have even researched the surname Lnu, unaware that it usually is an acronym for Last Name Unknown.

Title: Re: beginners blunders on tree
Post by: brigidmac on Monday 28 March 22 13:15 BST (UK)
Coombs I think I may have done that myself .

Spent another hour with this match .merging duplicate people and realigning generations .

It's a good comedy story 🙂 approved by my mentor we.re making it into a dialogue and the names  in the story are  B (Me) Mr Match . Mr T (JONES) .Mr RIGHT
Baby granny sissy   .real Granny EDEN
Close enough to truth for us !

The punch line is"  your grandma was not a baby .Mr T is   your uncle.not cousin...&
 you're not your own husband

 and we can all sing along to Willie Nelson song ' I am my own grandpa "
( I played a bit to the group today  )


Title: Re: beginners blunders on tree
Post by: coombs on Monday 28 March 22 16:56 BST (UK)
Coombs I think I may have done that myself .

Spent another hour with this match .merging duplicate people and realigning generations .

It's a good comedy story 🙂 approved by my mentor we.re making it into a dialogue and the names  in the story are  B (Me) Mr Match . Mr T (JONES) .Mr RIGHT
Baby granny sissy   .real Granny EDEN
Close enough to truth for us !

The punch line is"  your grandma was not a baby .Mr T is   your uncle.not cousin...&
 you're not your own husband

 and we can all sing along to Willie Nelson song ' I am my own grandpa "
( I played a bit to the group today  )

And me, I once researched the surname Null as it was listed for a mutual female ancestor in Leigh On Sea in Essex, but it seems the maiden surname was unknown for the woman, so the distant cousin put "Null". I soon found out her real maiden name.
Title: Re: beginners blunders on tree
Post by: brigidmac on Monday 28 March 22 17:18 BST (UK)
If  John NOTKNOWN + Jane  NULL  are at the top of so many trees  .
Many of us could claim  distant relative s ,@!
Title: Re: beginners blunders on tree
Post by: coombs on Monday 28 March 22 18:07 BST (UK)
Or a James Smith whose parents were listed as "Mr and Mrs Smith", sounds like a movie.

If such a person had a known sibling, to add the sibling on Ancestry you have to add a parent even if it is just a surname, or a Mr Smith etc.