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Title: Help with a census lookup?
Post by: seekernz on Wednesday 02 March 22 04:49 GMT (UK)
Asking for assistance,I would like to know who resided at the Piggot St address mentioned below.
George was the first born son of my maternal grandma and died of influenza during pandemic,Im guessing he died in the home of a family member.
 How may I get a free census lookup?
His death certificate lists:George Roberts"Bob" . Stanley(1914–1925)
1 Dec 1925 •
25 Piggot st, St Martins, Birmingham, Warwickshire, England.
Title: Re: Help with a census lookup?
Post by: bbart on Wednesday 02 March 22 07:14 GMT (UK)
Hi there!

The electoral registers for 25 Piggott Street, Birmingham for 1924 and 1925 show a Herbert and Edith Matilda Death living there.  They were still there in 1939.
There is the possibility someone else lived with them that wasn't on the registers, I suppose.

Freebmd gives a maiden name of Miller for Edith Matilda. 

Title: Re: Help with a census lookup?
Post by: KGarrad on Wednesday 02 March 22 08:59 GMT (UK)
Familysearch.org can offer free census lookups.
As does FreeCen.org.uk.

Registration required on FamilySearch.
Title: Re: Help with a census lookup?
Post by: Gadget on Wednesday 02 March 22 09:16 GMT (UK)
If you mean the 1921 census, you can't get it for free. Eventually, FindMyPast will include it as part of their subscription but, at the moment, you'd have to pay or visit one of the locations listed by the Nat Archives.

The Electoral Registers, given by bbart are the closest freely available.

Gadget
Title: Re: Help with a census lookup?
Post by: Gadget on Wednesday 02 March 22 09:30 GMT (UK)
Could you give the names of your grandparents as that might help.
Title: Re: Help with a census lookup?
Post by: footiestuds on Wednesday 02 March 22 10:30 GMT (UK)
Hi
There is a Mrs Amelia Stanley age 34 with a Master Harry R Stanley age 8 passenger list 12 Mar 1925 Southampton - New Zealand, home address is 49 Pigott Street Birmingham - any relation ?
Title: Re: Help with a census lookup?
Post by: seekernz on Wednesday 02 March 22 10:40 GMT (UK)
Thats got to be my darling gran,previous notes were obviously off point the address of 49 piggot might be the charm.I guess the death of wee Bobby knocked her off her pegs, Harry is my uncle and I was unsure of his birth place and of Grans arrival in NZ. Looks like youve nailed it for me, a million thanks.
Title: Re: Help with a census lookup?
Post by: footiestuds on Wednesday 02 March 22 10:47 GMT (UK)
You're welcome. I don't have access to Findmypast Electoral Registers but possibly bbart may be able to see who was at number 49!  :)
Title: Re: Help with a census lookup?
Post by: Ladyhawk on Wednesday 02 March 22 12:15 GMT (UK)
Hi
There is a Mrs Amelia Stanley age 34 with a Master Harry R Stanley age 8 passenger list 12 Mar 1925 Southampton - New Zealand, home address is 49 Pigott Street Birmingham - any relation ?

You're welcome. I don't have access to Findmypast Electoral Registers but possibly bbart may be able to see who was at number 49!  :)

As bbart is not currently online I've taken a look at the ER

address 49 Piggot Street

Year 1922 John Henry, Amelia & Jack Larkhom ROBERTS

Year 1924 addition to above names
Robert Larkhom, Horace Parker & Charles Claude ROBERTS

The ROBERTS family are still living at no 49 Piggot Street year 1925 and
John & Amelia are together on 1939 register at the same address

There is a marriage entry

Jun 1885 Walsall

John Henry ROBERTS
Name on same page
Amelia LARKHOM

They had a daughter named Amelia but she doesn't appear on the ER's with them

Amelia ROBERTS    mmn LARKKOM 
GRO Reference: 1890  J Quarter in WALSALL  Volume 06B  Page 751

There is a marriage entry Jun 1912   

Roberts    Amelia    Stanley    Walsall    6b   1316   
STANLEY    John    Roberts            Walsall    6b   1316

EDIT to add

Amelia Roberts
Baptism 1 May 1890 Walsall, St Peter, Staffordshire
Religion:   Anglican
Father:   John Henry Roberts Mother:   Amelia

Title: Re: Help with a census lookup?
Post by: Dundee on Wednesday 02 March 22 13:13 GMT (UK)
Harry is my uncle and I was unsure of his birth place and of Grans arrival in NZ. Looks like youve nailed it for me, a million thanks.

George and Harry were both born in NZ.  They arrived in the UK from NZ in 1924 on the Ruahine.

Debra  :)
Title: Re: Help with a census lookup?
Post by: seekernz on Wednesday 02 March 22 14:20 GMT (UK)
Many thanks for your effort,Im fumbling this stuff,we only ever called the lad bobby,References to George are spinning me out,having senior moments.
Title: Re: Help with a census lookup?
Post by: Ladyhawk on Wednesday 02 March 22 16:12 GMT (UK)
Harry is my uncle and I was unsure of his birth place and of Grans arrival in NZ. Looks like youve nailed it for me, a million thanks.

George and Harry were both born in NZ.  They arrived in the UK from NZ in 1924 on the Ruahine.


Same address given on this record 49 Piggots Street. If I've posted the correct details for Amelia (reply8), Amelia Stanley nee Roberts must have been visiting her parents John Henry & Amelia with her children.

Do you have any information on her husband John Stanley?

I can see a reference to his death in 1958 on familysearch https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPRF-48YQ

Could Amelia and her husband have travelled separately to NZ?  -

AMENDED to add probably wrong couple as their marriage entry Apr/May/Jun qtr. 1912

Mrs Stanley age 25, housewife
Ship Tainui
Departure London 25 April 1912
Destination Wellington NZ

Jno Stanley age 27, Bridle Cutter
Ship Ionic
Departure London 22 May 1912
Destination Wellington NZ


EDIT to add - you may already have this info. but just in case......

John Stanley age 73, retired saddler 50 John Street, Ponsonby
Death Date:   17 Mar 1958
Cremation Date:   19 Mar 1958
Cemetery:   Waikumete
Burial Place:   Auckland
New Zealand, Cemetery Records, 1800-2007 - on Anc*y

1901 census address 238, Green Lane, Walsall, Staffordshire
George   Stanley   Head   1856   Grocer & baker   Hixon, Staffordshire
Alice   Stanley   Wife           1855 Gnosall, Staffordshire
Albert Hall   Stanley   Son   1881   School teacher   Stone, Staffordshire
Mabel   Stanley   Dau   1882   Stone, Staffordshire
John   Stanley   Son   1885   Bridle cutter, Brierley Hill, Staffordshire
John is with his widowed mother Alice and his siblings 1911, his occupation Bridle-cutter harness

There are a number of public trees on Anc*y - one gives his name as John Thomas Stanley born Brierley Hill, Staffordshire, parents George Stanley & Alice nee HALL, wife Amelia Roberts, this tree has attached the wrong birth entry 1884 Dudley checking GRO indexes shows his mmn DAVIS

This birth entry is attached to another of the public trees
STANLEY, JOHN 1885  M Quarter in STOURBRIDGE  Volume 06C  Page 221   

Checking GRO indexes shows his mmn HALL


Title: Re: Help with a census lookup?
Post by: seekernz on Thursday 03 March 22 08:24 GMT (UK)
To all who have picked up this thread,my humble and sincere thanks.