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Title: How can future generations access your family history research?
Post by: julianb on Friday 25 February 22 19:14 GMT (UK)
A discussion on another thread about dodgy family trees on a certain commercial digital genealogy platform has reminded me that I'm interested in finding out how  much thought others have given to making sure future generations can access your family history research.

If like me you've slaved over a hot mouse and keyboard for years to determine which "Chipping" each of your "Smiths" were born in, I for one don't want all that work to be in vain. 

But these hastily accumulated trees on the likes of ance$try, which hoover up dodgy information and breed it like rabbits, does spell confusion for those that follow us.  So how do we avoid that trap?

Our trees will have information about living people.  How do we balance information like that and its value in the future, against current confidentiality? Can we future proof access to trees to those with a legitimate interest?

And what sort of format would information be best saved in?  We've exploited new technology wonderfully in recording our family history eg the hyperlink to family members, or to sources, but again can we future proof this or might we need to fall back on ink and paper?

Can we do this without surrendering information to a commercial organisation?

I'm sure others have thought about this already.

What are your plans?

What have you done already?

What are your obstacles to doing this?

Leave your thoughts here so we can have a good old chat and problem solve on this very important topic

[Apologies if this has been discussed alsewhere already - I couldn't find an earlier thread directly on this]

JULIAN
Title: Re: How can future generations access your family history research?
Post by: Nifty1 on Friday 25 February 22 19:33 GMT (UK)
Great question.

Perhaps put one’s faith in Rootschat and publish one’s findings under
alphabetically cataloged surname interests?
Title: Re: How can future generations access your family history research?
Post by: steadyrollingman on Friday 25 February 22 19:33 GMT (UK)
Not quite ink and paper but, as someone with access to desktop publishing software, my master tree is stylishly ( :P) created in InDesign, from which I produce PDFs to store on my iPad/Phone for reference when I'm visiting the Archives, walking round graveyards with no internet connection etc. Has also proved very handy to send to interested family members, who don't have access to the main FH sites or this GEDCOM stuff I keep hearing about but have absolutely no interest in :)

Although it's not a historical document per se, I'm considering asking the local Archives if they would like a USB (or whatever format is being used when I snuff it in decades to come) containing the tree plus all the supporting evidence and materials I've gathered. As 90% of my ancestors are from Durham, Northumberland & N Yorks, there's probably a fair case to be made for it being of some use.
Title: Re: How can future generations access your family history research?
Post by: Josephine on Friday 25 February 22 20:30 GMT (UK)
Just commenting to say I'm following this thread with great interest!
Title: Re: How can future generations access your family history research?
Post by: Josephine on Friday 25 February 22 20:58 GMT (UK)
I'm doing my research and organizing it with the goal of eventually putting it all into book format. If I think the copy/paste brigade + potential plagiarists (these are two separate categories) will bother me too much, I'll get it all ready, then tell my husband or child to hit "publish" after my death.

That's my current thinking about the issue; I don't know if I'll change my mind in future. I don't want all of my hard work to be lost, and I'd like to share what I've learned with others, but I know how I've felt in the past when my work was put online without my permission and without giving me any credit and I can't change the way I feel about it (believe me, I've tried).

At the very least, I want to have something in a readable format to leave behind for my child and my sibling's children, because I know they won't be interested in flipping through my binders of "family reports" and print-outs. I'd also like specific family or local history societies to have a copy.

For background, here's a link to my thoughts on the other thread mentioned above:
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=859234.msg7282870#msg7282870
Title: Re: How can future generations access your family history research?
Post by: GrahamSimons on Friday 25 February 22 22:35 GMT (UK)
A good bit of my research is now in book form - 600 pages or so. The latest version is in electronic form, but I have donated print versions to the Society of Genealogists' library, which is probably the most significant genealogical depository in the UK. If I were an American, I'd be sending it to Salt Lake City for the same reasons.
Title: Re: How can future generations access your family history research?
Post by: julianb on Friday 25 February 22 22:56 GMT (UK)
A good bit of my research is now in book form - 600 pages or so. The latest version is in electronic form, but I have donated print versions to the Society of Genealogists' library, which is probably the most significant genealogical depository in the UK. If I were an American, I'd be sending it to Salt Lake City for the same reasons.

Coincidentally, I was just looking at the Society Of Genealogists website!  How do you handle information about living people in these books, and do you have to provide a processing payment to SOG for this?

JULIAN
Title: Re: How can future generations access your family history research?
Post by: GrahamSimons on Friday 25 February 22 23:17 GMT (UK)
As for living people - I left them out (apart from an enormous list of names of people who have helped me along the way).

This page answers most questions. I think the fact that there needs to be a financial contribution might be offputting, but it's realistic - someone has to pay to store, protect, catalogue and provide access. https://www.sog.org.uk/depositing-materials-with-us

For other items of interest beyond the genealogical community, there are many archives that welcome relevant material. I have deposited things with Edinburgh University, the National Library of Wales, the Imperial War Museum, Berkshire archives, Wiltshire archives, Museum of English Rural Life, among others. Choose the right archive and they'll bite your hand off to get the material!
Title: Re: How can future generations access your family history research?
Post by: phenolphthalein on Friday 25 February 22 23:34 GMT (UK)
I have not read all the comments here but I have a few of my own thoughts about technology -- maybe I'm a Luddite.

I have family photos from the 1860s but none of my son for the last few years -- hubby does not print digital photos.

I have my handwritten genealogical notes and what I have in word at the moment.  Everything i put on computer years ago has gone. Computer died -- hubby had backed up backuos not put on computer -- technology has changed now -- who uses floppy discs.

Whatever you do multiple copies -- but what will replace usbs and hard discs and will that equipment exist in your grandchildren's time.

I think we should keep at least one copy of everything in print form.  What we are searching the past on is in that form or copied from that form.

regards
pH




Title: Re: How can future generations access your family history research?
Post by: GrahamSimons on Friday 25 February 22 23:40 GMT (UK)
Interesting: I've just been reading this:
https://blog.nationalarchives.gov.uk/pronom-a-database-centenary/
Title: Re: How can future generations access your family history research?
Post by: chris_49 on Saturday 26 February 22 07:02 GMT (UK)
Earlier thread on this topic:

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=810384.msg6702900#msg6702900
Title: Re: How can future generations access your family history research?
Post by: julianb on Saturday 26 February 22 09:26 GMT (UK)
Earlier thread on this topic:

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=810384.msg6702900#msg6702900


Thanks Chris, I'd not looked there. Some similar ground!
Title: Re: How can future generations access your family history research?
Post by: Mike Griffiths on Thursday 28 April 22 04:04 BST (UK)
Thanks for this interesting question.  I'm on the side of those who believe that hard copy books are the best way of preserving family histories.

I wrote a book on my mother's family history and privately published 50 copies.  I sent these to every relative I could think of who might be interested, so copies are scattered throughout members of the family tree.  I would like to think that these will be passed down to future generations.

One other option to consider is that for a few hundred dollars extra I could have had the book included in the Amazon catalogue where it would in theory remain available for purchase indefinitely.
Title: Re: How can future generations access your family history research?
Post by: Guy Etchells on Thursday 28 April 22 08:21 BST (UK)
Thanks for this interesting question.  I'm on the side of those who believe that hard copy books are the best way of preserving family histories.

I wrote a book on my mother's family history and privately published 50 copies.  I sent these to every relative I could think of who might be interested, so copies are scattered throughout members of the family tree.  I would like to think that these will be passed down to future generations.

One other option to consider is that for a few hundred dollars extra I could have had the book included in the Amazon catalogue where it would in theory remain available for purchase indefinitely.

As somone who has spent the last 15 years producing digital copies of out of print books and records for the family history market and archives I would say the best way, without doubt, of preserving family histories is in book form.
Books can withstand a tremendous amount of abuse and still be readable unlike digital records which may fail at the slightest thing.
The major downside of printed books is cost, the cost of printing, binding, etc. and subsequently, for readers the costs of purchasing a copy, including postage.
Having said that those costs should be weighed against the equipment required to access a digital copy and perhaps justified that way.
Cheers
Guy
Title: Re: How can future generations access your family history research?
Post by: Mike Griffiths on Thursday 28 April 22 08:31 BST (UK)
Thanks Guy.  I actually write family histories, and have been pleasantly surprised with how costs of self-publishing have fallen in recent years.  I can now print 50 paperback copies of a 180-page self-published book for under AUD500.  Of course, your point about postage costs is relevant for those with relatives spread all over the world.