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I am researching Anita Elizabeth Tildesley and her husband George henry Thomas.
Married in 1907, they changed their name to Tregarneth in 1928.
I am particularly interested in anything during the second world war when Anita Elizabeth was named on Land tax for Plas Bodfa, Beaumauris. Anita was a writer, poet and artist. (The Call of the Sea and Founders of Faith in Wales). Photographs, stories anything would be wonderful. Their address varies over the years 1935 to late 50s but one was Voel Vanna (Church Bay) Porth Swtan.
Her family lived in Plas Mor, Rhosneigr and later her brothers lived in a large house on Menai Strait.
In 1907 she lived where her aunt lived at Glan Aber, Llangefni.
I am also trying to trace Miss Dwynwen Evans of Ty Lawr Newborough
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Did you check the marriage registration - her surname was Tyldesley - not Tildesley
www.freebmd.org.uk
No birth registration but there is a birth in 1889 Monmouth for an Anita Elizabeth Jones - mothers maiden name Waite.
Where did she die in 1972 - no death under Tregarneth. A death in 1972 would have her full birthdate. Where did you get 1889 from as her birthyear
Have you looked for her on the 1891/1901/1911/1921 censuses to establish her birthyear & place of birth
Census info is available via the various subscription sites or free on www.familysearch.org
Do you have a copy of her marriage cert showing her fathers name?
You also may want to read this 2013 thread
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=653824.0
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Thank you it should be 1881 sorry my miss type.
She died in Jersey so I have details of that.
I have a lot of details and you are correct that link is to the correct Tildesley family. They married in 1907 so she was Thomas until 1928 when they changed their name.
She travelled a lot which I have details of and they seem to have several addresses on Anglesey and in Dorset. I am really keen to find a photograph of her but having no joy.
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You probably already have this - no photo
https://www.plasbodfa.com/bodfa-history/1941-1942-george-anita-tregarneth
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I do thank you.
I thought her published books may lead me to a photograph of her but nothing yet.
Her Founders of Faith in Wales has since been republished.
Thanks again
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Given she was an artist as well as an author I would have expected to find a photo somewhere
Only other suggestion I can make - and it's a slim chance - was anything published about her in Jersey when she died which may have had a photo??
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Thank you I will try that.
Nothing has come up as an obituary but I will try the papers thanks again I appreciate you thoughts.
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The only painting I could spot was "Autumn Landscape", mentioned in the Times Jun 25 1934. Googling "Autumn Landscape Tregarneth" delivered an image.
The only "obit" spotted was a very short Death notice in The Times.
Photograph as rare as hens' teeth.
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Thank you.
I was just hoping that the publication of her books would include photographs but so far only written reviews and adverts.
Her husband George Henry Tregarneth was sheriff of Anglesey in 1948 but there doesn’t seem to be photographs of those.
Anita/George travelled extensively from 1910 to 1960 so was hoping that photographs may exist of onboard some of the transatlantic ships. They were on the Ss Maurentania to New York in 1914 for example.
Thanks again.
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Can I ask
What the context for the mention in the times was? Anita exhibited work in the Royal Cambrian Academy of Art but not until 1935 and 1936.
‘The only painting I could spot was "Autumn Landscape", mentioned in the Times Jun 25 1934. Googling "Autumn Landscape Tregarneth" delivered an image.’
Can I also ask what the obituary said
Many thanks.
The only "obit" spotted was a very short Death notice in The Times
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I am researching Anita Elizabeth Tildesley
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I am also trying to trace Miss Dwynwen Evans of Ty Lawr Newborough
Interesting thread. Can't help....but who is this other person? Miss Dwynwen Evans of Ty Lawr Newborough
Maureen
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I believe it was some one she knew certainly in later life.
Trying to make the connection
Thanks
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I believe it was some one she knew certainly in later life.
Trying to make the connection
Thanks
Where did the name "pop up"?
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I am also trying to trace Miss Dwynwen Evans of Ty Lawr Newborough
Could this be her?
Annie Dwynwen Evans ( birth reg shows mmn Thomas)
Baptism Date: 13 Sep 1908
Baptism Place: Llangaffo, Anglesey, Wales
Father: Hugh Rowland Evans, farmer
Mother: Elizabeth Ann Evans
Hugh Rowlands Evans , 29, farmer
Marriage 10 Oct 1904 Llangaffo, Anglesey, Wales
Father: John Evans, farmer
Spouse: Lizzie Ann Thomas 26
Father William, shop? keeper
Annie D. Evans
Elizabeth A Evans
Hugh R Evans
Residence Date: 1956-1957
Street Address: Ty Lawr
Residence Place: Anglesey, Wales
Parliamentary Constituency: Anglesey
Ann Dwynwen Evans
Elizabeth Ann Evans
Hugh Rowland Evans
Residence Date: 1935
Street Address: Country Glanmorfa
Residence Place: Anglesey, Wales
Annie Dwynwen Evans , Brynawelon Llangaffo
Death 27 Aug 1984
Death Place: Angleseygwynedd
Probate Date: 22 May 1985
Probate Registry: Ipswich
Annie Dwynwen Evans
Death Age: 76
Abode Bryn Awelon
Burial Date: 30 Aug 1984
Burial Place: Llangaffo, Anglesey, Wales
Hugh Rowland Evans
Death Age: 84
Abode Ty Lawr
Burial Date: 27 Nov 1959
Burial Place: Llangaffo, Anglesey, Wales
Elizabeth Ann Evans, Ty Lawr
Death Date: 17 Mar 1972
Death Place: Anglesey
Probate Date: 28 Apr 1972
Elizabeth Ann Evans
Death Age: 93
Abode Ty Lawr, Newborough
Burial Date: 21 Mar 1972
Burial Place: Llangaffo, Anglesey, Wales
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Could Elizabeth Ann Evans nee Thomas be the sister of George Henry Thomas who married Anita?
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I think so....is the list all known addresses?
That’s exciting. They changed their name and George was removed as executor of his father will hence the name change I’m guessing.
She is mentioned in Anita’s will.
Thank you for your help it’s much appreciated.
Can I ask what you used to trace her?
Thanks again
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:) :) Lovely work,Ladyhawk!
Maureen
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I think so....is the list all known addresses?
Can I ask what you used to trace her?
I found the information using Anc*y
Anglesey, Wales, Anglican Church Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1547-1994
Anglesey, Wales, Electoral Registers, 1832-1977
England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1995
Her birth entry confirming mmn from GRO Indexes
EVANS, ANNIE DWYNWEN mmn THOMAS
GRO Reference: 1908 S Quarter in CARNARVON Volume 11B Page 415
She can be found on 1911 census, Penrorsedd Llangaffo
1911c https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7VN-56H
1939 register she is still living with her parents
Hugh Rowland Evans
Elizabeth Ann Evans
Annie Dwynwen Evans
Residence Date: 1939
Street Address: Glanmorfa
Residence Place: Anglesey, Wales
Parliamentary Constituency: Anglesey
Free search 1921 census parish Llangaffo Carnarvon , Anglesey
Hugh Rowland Evans 1874 Llanbadrig, Anglesey, Wales
Elizabeth Ann Evans 1878 Tal-Y-Sarn, Caernarvonshire, Wales
Anne Dwynwen Evans 1908 Llangaffo, Anglesey, Wales
you need a sub to F M P and will also need to pay to view 1921 census image
The Electoral register for 1921 gives their address
Hugh Rowland Evans
Elizabeth Ann Evans
Residence Date: 1921
Street Address: Glanmorfa
Residence Place: Anglesey, Wales
Parliamentary Constituency: Anglesey
they are still living there in 1947
Year 1948 Electoral Register Hugh, Elizabeth, Annie’s address Ty Lawr
Annie D Evans
Residence Date: 1976-1977
Street Address: Ty Lawr
Residence Place: Anglesey, Wales
:) :) Lovely work,Ladyhawk!
Maureen
Thank you Maureen :)
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Could Elizabeth Ann Evans nee Thomas be the sister of George Henry Thomas who married Anita?
I’m not sure if they are siblings I was looking to see if I could find them together on a census ???
Witnesses to Hugh & Lizzie’s marriage were
William Thomas, Owen Richard Thomas, Sidney Evans & ?ily Thomas
There is a Lizzie Ann Thomas with brother Owen Richard, their father William , occ Draper, Grocer & postmaster Piece: 5275 Folio: 58 Page Number: 8
William Thomas 55
Ann Thomas 53
Lizzie Ann Thomas 22
Owen Richd Thomas 20
William Idwal Thomas 18
they are together on 1891 c father William occ Tailor & Draper
and 1881 Piece: 5562 Folio: 115 Page Number: 22
Wm. Thomas 34
Ann Thomas 35
Elth. Ann Thomas 2
Laura A. Williams 15
Owen Thomas
When Owen Richard Thomas, 30, master baker married 1910 father William Thomas, general dealer
EDIT to add
Looking at the marriage of George Henry Thomas to Anita Elizabeth Tydlesley,
his father William Thomas occ Ship Owner & Broker
Witnesses to marriage
Robert John Thomas, Mabel Louise Holt & William Thomas
George can be found with his father & siblings 1881 in Lancashire
St James Road, Bootle cum Linacre, West Derby, Lancashire
William Thomas Head 1838 Ship owner & ship broker Wales
Catherine Thomas Wife 1840 - Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Robert J Thomas Son S1873 Scholar Liverpool, Lancashire
Margaret Thomas Daughter 6 1875 Scholar Liverpool, Lancashire
William M Thomas Son 1877 - Liverpool, Lancashire
George H Thomas Son 1881 - Bootle, Lancashire
Mary Thomas Mother Widow 1803 - Wales
Jane Porter Servant 1869 General servant Liverpool, Lancashire
Elizabeth Watkins Cousin Married Female 55 1826 - Wales
So this confirms that Lizzie Ann Thomas & George Henry Thomas are not siblings :-\
For info. from m/c Anita's father Henry Fletcher Tildesley, Civil Engineer
Looks as if she was baptised as Annie
Annie Elizabeth Tildesley
Birth 22 Sep 1888
Baptism 17 Oct 1888 Liverpool, St Peter, Lancashire
Father: Henry Fletcher Tildesley, occ Engineer Mother: Janet Margaret
Annie Elizabeth Tildesley
Quarter of the Year: Oct-Nov-Dec 1888 West Derby, Lancashire Volume: 8b Page: 577
GRO indexes mmn Richards
Her father Henry Fletcher Tyldseley age 32, Civil Engineer, married 28 Sep 1887 Jeanette Margaret Richards, his father George Frederick Tildesley, dec’d corn merchant
Edit - hadn’t read the link from Carole before I posted above details for Annie
This record confirms her dob
Mrs Tregarneth, housewife
Birth 22 Sep 1888
G H Tregarneth, land owner
Birth 1 Feb 1881
Port of Departure: London, England
Arrival Date: 4 Mar 1959
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ship Name: Chusan
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I am also trying to trace Miss Dwynwen Evans of Ty Lawr Newborough
She is mentioned in Anita’s will.
There are a number of births on FreeBMD for persons named Dwynwen Evans
You mentioned that Dwynwen Evans is on Anita's Will. Is there any other information that might be helpful?
The Electoral Register for Anglesey goes up to the Year 1977 - I could only see an Annie Dwynwen Evans mentioned living at Glanmorfa & Ty Lawr with Hugh Rowland & Elizabeth Ann Evans
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Can I ask
What the context for the mention in the times was? Anita exhibited work in the Royal Cambrian Academy of Art but not until 1935 and 1936.
‘The only painting I could spot was "Autumn Landscape", mentioned in the Times Jun 25 1934. Googling "Autumn Landscape Tregarneth" delivered an image.’
Can I also ask what the obituary said
Many thanks.
The only "obit" spotted was a very short Death notice in The Times
The Times, 25 Jun 1934
ART EXHIBITIONS - WOMEN ARTISTS
"... the seventy-ninth exhibition of the Society of Women Artists, at the Royal Institute Galleries, 195, Piccadilly ... there are several good oil painters ... "
It goes on to list them and the last named "...and "Autumn Landscape" by Miss (sic) Anita Tregarneth, all have artistic distinction".
Note my "obit" is in inverted commas and states "very short Death notice."
The Times, 2 Dec 1972
Deaths - Tregarneth, Anita. - On November 29th, 1972, peacefully in Jersey
Re. Dwynwen Evans
Liverpool Echo, 20 March 1965
WI Founder Member for Palace Party - Representatives of North Wales Named
Amongst those named - Miss A Dwynwen Evans of Newborough will represent her institute
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Re. Dwynwen Evans
Liverpool Echo, 20 March 1965
WI Founder Member for Palace Party - Representatives of North Wales Named
Amongst those named - Miss A Dwynwen Evans of Newborough will represent her institute
Also these entries
Dwynwen Evans of Newborough also mentioned Liverpool Echo 11 April 1959
Handicraft Exhibition…….. said every branch was expected to send at least one suitable member to an evening school for choir conductors, to be organised by the county federation, for they hoped a choral contest confined to W.I branches would be introduced at the Anglesey Eisteddfod next year in place of choral recitation competition.
and Liverpool Echo 06 January 1962 Merseyside & North Wales Electricity Consultative Council made following appointments to local committees………
Miss A. Dwynwen Evans (Anglesey County Federation of Women’s Institutes).
edit to add
23 April 1964 - North Wales Weekly News - Colwyn Bay, Denbighshire
The Minister of Power has appointed Miss A. Dwynwen Evans of Newborough,Anglesey to be a member of the Merseyside and North Wales Electricity Consultative Council
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They married in 1907 so she was Thomas until 1928 when they changed their name.
You may already have this but just in case.....
Anita Elizabeth Tregarneth
Issue date 14 Jul 1928
Issue number 33412
Record set London Gazette 1665-2018
Notice is given that Anita Elizabeth TREGARNETH of “Horleylands”, Horley, Surrey, lately Anita Elizabeth THOMAS has assumed and intends henceforth upon all occasions and at all times to sign and use and to be called and known by the name of Anita Elizabeth TREGARNETH, in lieu of and in substitution for her former names of Anita Elizabeth THOMAS, and that such intended change of name is formally declared and evidenced by a deed poll under her hand and seal dated the third day of August, 1928, duly executed and attested, and enrolled in the Central Office of the Supreme Court of Judicature on the ninth day of August, 1928.
Dated this 11th Day August, 1928
Edit to add George also changed name wording is the same as above, notice is given that George Henry Tregarneth………….
Issue date 14 Jul 1928
Issue number 33412
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Thanks for this incredible work LadyHawke I really appreciate it and everyone else.
The will gives a list of people but she is the only one on Anglesey.
The only other with a connection is John Howell Hughes a docter based in Liverpool. There is a full obituary for him which includes him being sheriff of Anglesey in 1954 and awarded an OBE (after Anitas Death).
Thanks again