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Title: Help finding entire Eccleston family in Lancashire 1911 census
Post by: Meetlillie on Wednesday 23 February 22 11:56 GMT (UK)
Hi,

Very new here so apologies if I’m posting in the wrong thread.

I am looking for some help, I cannot seem to locate a family in the 1911 census. I have 1891,1901 and 1921 but for the life of me can’t find them in 1911. They were in and out of the workhouse between 1896 and 1909 (recently found 2 of the children in workhouse being discharged in Jan 1911)

I have tried different variations of names etc.. and just stumped as it’s the entire family.

Anyone point me in the direction of some advice or tips ? I would really appreciate it.

Thanks Lizzie
Title: Re: Help finding entire family in 1911 census
Post by: Meetlillie on Wednesday 23 February 22 15:16 GMT (UK)
All records and locations are Manchester / Hulme / Chorlton / South Manchester

Husband & Wife
Edward Eccleston abt. 1865 in Manchester,lancs
Catherine Eccleston (formerly Cavanagh) abt.1867 ( 1891 census born in Ireland 1901 & 1921 born Manchester,lancs ) - No birth record found yet
Married in 1885 in St mark, Hulme , Manchester

Children
Alice Eccleston 1890-1890
Mary Alice 1891-1903 death withington workhouse
John Edward 1893-1917 death in war
Thomas 1895-1908
William 1897-
Catherine (Kate) 1900-1924
Frederick 1902-1903 death withington workhouse
Alice 1905-1988
Joseph 1908-
Nellie (Ellen) 1910-1996
Bernard 1912-1937 death withington hospital

Records
1891 - Hulme - Chorlton
Edward Eccleston
Catherine Eccleston

1901- South Manchester
Kate (Catherine ) Eccleston
Mary Alice
John Edward
Thomas
William
Kate
Sarah Cavanagh - mother - Widow - 56 - born Ireland ( no records found for mother as of yet)

No husband Edward on this census - however still says married not widowed

1921 - Hulme,Manchester
Catherine Eccleston
Kate
Alice
Ellen
Joseph
Bernard

No husband Edward on census page however on the first page where states name and address of person responsible for the return it has Edward Eccleston on the front but details not given on the actual schedule or signature at bottom. Catherine still says married not widowed and children’s parent listed as both still alive.

Withington Workhouse -

I also have varying entries to Withington workhouse between 1896-1910 of Catherine Eccleston and her children
Title: Re: Help finding entire Eccleston family in Lancashire 1911 census
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 23 February 22 16:44 GMT (UK)
Welcome to rootschat

Their marriage has Edward as Edward Joseph Eccleston  ;)

Marriage: 9 Nov 1885 St Mark, Hulme, Lancashire, England
Edward Joseph Eccleston - 20 Years, Dyer, Bachelor, 15 Agnes St.
Catherine Cavanagh - 18 Years, Spinster, 15 Agnes St.
    Groom's Father: Edward Joseph Eccleston, Striker
    Bride's Father: Patrick Cavanagh, Porter
    Witness: Thomas Jackson; Dealer McCormick
Title: Re: Help finding entire Eccleston family in Lancashire 1911 census
Post by: AlanBoyd on Wednesday 23 February 22 17:35 GMT (UK)
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Title: Re: Help finding entire Eccleston family in Lancashire 1911 census
Post by: TerriG on Wednesday 23 February 22 17:46 GMT (UK)
Welcome to Rootschat Lizzie.

Could you give us their address(es) in 1901 & 1921 please?

Terri
Title: Re: Help finding entire Eccleston family in Lancashire 1911 census
Post by: Meetlillie on Wednesday 23 February 22 18:22 GMT (UK)
Welcome to Rootschat Lizzie.

Could you give us their address(es) in 1901 & 1921 please?

Terri

Of course I can …

1901 - 12 Daniel street, South Manchester, Chorlton, Lancashire
1921 - 13 Davies Street, Hulme, South Manchester, Lancashire

Thank you
Title: Re: Help finding entire Eccleston family in Lancashire 1911 census
Post by: TerriG on Wednesday 23 February 22 18:58 GMT (UK)
There is an Eccleston family living at 186 Cobden Street, Ancoats in 1911:-

Sarah Ann b.1868 / Head / Widow
Catherine b.1887 / Daughter / Single
John Edward b.1891 /Son / Single
Thomas b.1894 / Son / Single
Joseph b.1896 / Son / Single

All born Manchester

Sarah Ann has crossed out that she's been married for 25 years.

(This was from The Genealogist)
Title: Re: Help finding entire Eccleston family in Lancashire 1911 census
Post by: Ladyhawk on Wednesday 23 February 22 19:42 GMT (UK)

I am looking for some help, I cannot seem to locate a family in the 1911 census. I have 1891,1901 and 1921 but for the life of me can’t find them in 1911.

They were in and out of the workhouse between 1896 and 1909 (recently found 2 of the children in workhouse being discharged in Jan 1911)

I have tried different variations of names etc.. and just stumped as it’s the entire family

What were their names and  did it give an address on the 1911 discharge record?
Title: Re: Help finding entire Eccleston family in Lancashire 1911 census
Post by: Ladyhawk on Wednesday 23 February 22 20:02 GMT (UK)
Do you have Nellie’s birth certificate might help with an address

ECCLESTON, NELLIE    mmn    KAVANAGH 
GRO Reference: 1910  M Quarter in CHORLTON  Volume 08C  Page 699
Title: Re: Help finding entire Eccleston family in Lancashire 1911 census
Post by: Meetlillie on Wednesday 23 February 22 20:32 GMT (UK)

I am looking for some help, I cannot seem to locate a family in the 1911 census. I have 1891,1901 and 1921 but for the life of me can’t find them in 1911.

They were in and out of the workhouse between 1896 and 1909 (recently found 2 of the children in workhouse being discharged in Jan 1911)

I have tried different variations of names etc.. and just stumped as it’s the entire family

What were their names and  did it give an address on the 1911 discharge record?

2 of the children, names appear as Ecclestone not Eccleston (this appears a few time in workhouse recordings)
Catherine Ecclestone admitted 13.1.1910 discharged 14.1.1911 care/ of Mother
Alice Ecclestone 13.1.1910 discharged 14.1.1911 c/o Mother

Address looks like ____ Holly Mount - cannot read first word.
I have tried to have a look into this but came up with nothing just trying to figure out if it may have been a hospital or children’s home as no house number.

 https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBPRS%2FMAN%2F4510261%2F00084.JOIN&parentid=GBPRS%2FA%2F57336283%2F1

Joseph Eccleston admitted 4.5.1910 discharged 1.10.1910
Address 74 crown street,Hulme

I have checked that address but no luck.

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBPRS%2FMAN%2F4510261%2F00080.JOIN&parentid=GBPRS%2FA%2F57336223%2F1

I have Nellies birth certificate ordered. As of now all I have is her birth register from withington workhouse.

Thank you

Title: Re: Help finding entire Eccleston family in Lancashire 1911 census
Post by: Ladyhawk on Wednesday 23 February 22 20:34 GMT (UK)

There is an Eccleston family living at 186 Cobden Street, Ancoats in 1911:-

Sarah Ann b.1868 / Head / Widow
Catherine b.1887 / Daughter / Single
John Edward b.1891 /Son / Single
Thomas b.1894 / Son / Single
Joseph b.1896 / Son / Single

All born Manchester

Sarah Ann has crossed out that she's been married for 25 years.

(This was from The Genealogist)

I think the above Sarah Ann Eccleston is nee Nugent

Sarah Ann Nugent
Registration Quarter:   Mar 1885
Registration District:   Manchester  Lancashire Volume:   8d Page:   288
Names on same page
Thomas Eccleston
Alice Greaves
Thomas George Rooksby

ECCLESTON, JOHN  EDWARD     mmn NUGENT 
GRO Reference: 1890  J Quarter in CHORLTON  Volume 08C  Page 914
Title: Re: Help finding entire Eccleston family in Lancashire 1911 census
Post by: Ladyhawk on Wednesday 23 February 22 20:54 GMT (UK)

2 of the children, names appear as Ecclestone not Eccleston (this appears a few time in workhouse recordings)

Catherine Ecclestone admitted 13.1.1910 discharged 14.1.1911 care/ of Mother
Alice Ecclestone 13.1.1910 discharged 14.1.1911 c/o Mother

Address looks like ____ Holly Mount - cannot read first word.
I have tried to have a look into this but came up with nothing just trying to figure out if it may have been a hospital or children’s home as no house number.

 https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBPRS%2FMAN%2F4510261%2F00084.JOIN&parentid=GBPRS%2FA%2F57336283%2F1

Joseph Eccleston admitted 4.5.1910 discharged 1.10.1910
Address 74 crown street,Hulme


This old thread mentions Holy Mount Convent/Children's Home
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=359733.0

There are Pilling,  Fryer (boarders) & Williams (lodgers)living at 74 Crown Street Hulme, South Manchester in 1911   :-\


Edit to add think first word reads from Holly Mount
Title: Re: Help finding entire Eccleston family in Lancashire 1911 census
Post by: Ladyhawk on Wednesday 23 February 22 21:07 GMT (UK)
There’s also this thread Holly Mount Convent
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=146072.0

Some info on Holly Mount childrens home

http://www.childrenshomes.org.uk/TottingtonHollymount/