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General => The Common Room => Topic started by: Watermelon on Sunday 20 February 22 09:24 GMT (UK)
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Inept and baffled and thank you to Maureen et al who made previous suggestions, I have just paid £6 on 1921 Census for access to Kingsckere Road record and it's not the Wellington Terrace asylum cottages it's at the top of the road, I have established there is also a Wellington Terrace in Kingsclere, Newbury Road a village 6 miles away BUT still I cannot find Wellington Terrace, (old) Kingsclere Road on the 1921 Census, I have tried putting in Sherborne St John (the parish it was in at the time) and nothing, tried an Alfred G Turnbull Wellington Terrace on the 1939 register and nothing??? Although Maureen found him, I use find my past site. This feels like a dead end right now 😪 this house was built 1913 for people who helped to build the Park Prewett Asylum, so I know it should be in the 1921 Census........
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tried an Alfred G Turnbull Wellington Terrace on the 1939 register and nothing??? Although Maureen found him, I use find my past site. This feels like a dead end right now 😪 this house was built 1913 for people who helped to build the Park Prewett Asylum, so I know it should be in the 1921 Census........
The Alfred that Maureen suggested was listed as Alfred G Turnball on the Register ;D
Kay
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Here is the start of Wellington Terrace on the 1939 Register. The next street is Dunsford Crescent so it is the right one:
On FindMyPast: https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=TNA%2FR39%2F2370%2F2370I%2F008&parentid=TNA%2FR39%2F2370%2F2370I%2F008%2F25
On Ancestry: https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discoveryui-content/view/2926521:61596
Also linking to the previous thread - not sure why you have started a new one
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=858110.msg7268144#msg7268144
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Looking at some of the older residents of Wellington Terrace in the 1939 register, Walter Simpkins (b.1872) is in the same parish on the 1921 census. I tried putting in an address for him in the advanced search - Wellington Terrace doesn't work but Park Terrace does - is Park Terrace possibly a former name of Wellington Terrace?
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Thank you Shaun I am.an IT luddite and could not find my previous post. Thank you all for your help I really appreciate it
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Hi Shaun, it has always been known as Wellington Terrace
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I've corrected the link to the 1939 register on FindMyPast
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There was a change of street name
Walter H Simpkins was at 3 Wellington Terrace in 1939
On the 1930 electoral roll he was at 3 Park Prewett Cottages
Same for Horace Seagon - at 26 WT in 1939, and 26 PPC in 1930.
And Arthur Routley at 13 WT in 1939, and 13 PPC in 1930
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Interesting, there were cottages on the Park Prewett Asylum site as wel, so it's possible they moved from Wellington Terrace to the cottages, they were all workers at the local asylum and Wellingtin Terrace and Park Prewett cottages were owned by the asylum
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Actually it does seem a coincidence that the house numbers are the same ! Wow that is news and possibility that they changed the name after all
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There are lots more - Purse at 37, Phillips at 16, Martin at 29 and so on. All with the same house numbers at Park Prewett Cottages in 1930, and at Wellington Terrace in 1939.
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Thank you all much appreciated I don't know if anyone in the Terrace is aware of the name change although we have people here in their 80s who have lived here since the 1960s so they will be delighted with this discovery as am I. :)
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Hi Shaun, I have tried again nothing in 1921 census, so far the help I have has shown people have found the address on 1930 register and 1939 but no one has found Park Prewett or Prewitt Cottages or Wellington Terrace on the 1921 Census. The only reference to Park Terrace in the 1921 Census shows 9 results when I select I get another message stating No results found?? Have taken an image and will try to attach
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As someone pointed out on the other thread, a 1921 address search for "Park" in Sherborne St John throws up these strange addresses. Might they be mistranscriptions of Park Prewett Cottages?
Park Barcent Cottages
Park Beecash
Park Cemer Cottages
Park Paere Cottages
Park Panick Cottages
Park Pannerth Cottages
Park Panneth Cottage
Park Pannish Cottage
Park Park Cottages
Park Parmith Cottage
Park Pasworth Cottages
Park Princess Cottages
Park Terrace Cottage
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The 1921 electoral roll lists some residents of Park Prewett Cottages:
William Henry Smart x 2
Fanny Smart
Alfred Chivers
Charles Burden Chivers
Henry Chivers
Mary Ann Chivers
Alfred Miles (also there on the 1919 roll)
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Did your Alfred marry a Sarah ?. If so they appear together on 1921 census in the parish of Sherborne St John, Basingstoke under the surname TURNBALL. His dob 1881 in St Giles London.
John
Added, birth of Alfred
Births Jun 1881
TURNBULL Alfred George St. Giles 1b 652 his mother's maiden name PERRY
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Hello Shaun, possibly, we have the village of Sherbourne st John which is 2 miles away. Wellington Terrace was once in that parish but is now under Basingstoke and Deane. I will have to do some more digging. These houses were sold in 1986 when the ex Asylum/psychiatric hospital closed and sold off all its land and property. Ex employees were given first dibs, if they could afford to buy they did if not they had to move out/away.
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There are also some odd coincidences between Asylum Cottages in the 1920's, Park Prewett Cottages in the 1930's and Wellington Terrace from around 1938:
The Simpkins were at 3 AC then 3 PPC then 3 WT
The Purses were at 4 AC then 4 PPC (1929) before moving to 37 PPC (1930) then 37 WT
The Routleys were at 13 AC then 13 PPC then 13 WT
The Phillips were at 16 AC then 16 PPC then 16 WT
So it looks like Asylum Cottages were renamed Park Prewett Cottages then renamed again as Wellington Terrace.
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Thank you Shaun, your help has been invaluable I will let you know when I finally get the records, have emailed find my past, and think I will have to up my subscription payment
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Last shot can someone kindly see who was on the 1930 and 39 registers for number 2 either Asylum Cottages, Park Prewett/Prewett Cottages and Wellington Terrace, if it's the same named person I will then start from there, Thank you again
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Alfred Pierre Speiser was at 2 Asylum Cottages 1921-1928, 2 Park Prewett Cottages from 1929 and 2 Wellington Terrace in 1939.
Wife Bessie.
Previously (1920) at 15 Asylum Cottages
He appears to be in the 1921 census as Alfred Spicer born Tottenham 1889
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Thank you Shaun I am.doing cartwheels 😊
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Hi Watermelon !
We’ve just moved into same road and I stumbled on this thread doing the same research as you trying to find out what year our house was built and who lived here . We’ve found someone in the 1960’s a nurse from Poland that worked at the hospital , but nothing else really any help on where to go would be fab !