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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Hertfordshire => England => Hertfordshire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: Celtic Damsel on Tuesday 08 February 22 11:43 GMT (UK)
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Morning all looking for some help with perhaps finding where I could access the whole parish record for this Tudor lady her name is Sibillan De Evelynge and she was married in Rickmansworth Herts in 1564 to a John or Joseph Gibbs I have all of his information and all of here's going forward from her marriage but just cannot seem to find a birth for her which was given as 1527. having done lots of digging online I can see the parish records still exist but no where can I find a place to write to access or visit to view them in the hope of a fathers name as I think that mothers names were not included then, hoping someone from there could point me in the right direction as her heritage has been a mystery to me for some time now. thanks in anticipation of a few pointers
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Parish registers did not start until c1538
https://www.familysearch.org/en/wiki/History_of_Parish_Registers_in_England
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You could try searching Hertfordshire names online
https://www.hertfordshire.gov.uk/services/libraries-and-archives/hertfordshire-archives-and-local-studies/hertfordshire-archives-and-local-studies.aspx
There are some records of Alice, George and Henry Eveling in Rickmansworth at about that time. I don't think I've seen the name Sibillan. Would that be Sybil or Sibyl (Sibylla in Latin)? For example there's a Sible Evelynge daughter of George Evelynge born in Rickmansworth in 1572. In Family Search batch C072795.
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Here is a case in Common Pleas concerning Henry Evelyng, of Rickmansworth, in 1543.
Bucks. The master of the Savoy Hospital in Middlesex versus William Evelyng, executor of Henry Evelyng, of Rykmonsworth, Herts, for waste, or destruction of property Henry had for a term of years in Chalfount, Bucks.
http://aalt.law.uh.edu/aalt1/H8/CP40no1116/aCP40no1116fronts/IMG_0054.htm
This could be the Henry Evelyn of Rickmansworth, husbandman, registered will in 1536.
In Herts Names Online. His will might tell you more.
And this is the same guy, in a Common Pleas case from 1533.
London. Henry Evelyn, of Rikmersworth, yeoman, is the plaintiff versus Gregory Lovell, of Hardelyngton/Harlington, Middx, gent, for a debt of 20 pounds.
Second entry:
http://aalt.law.uh.edu/H8/CP40no1076/bCP40no1076dorses/IMG_6421.htm
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You could try searching Hertfordshire names online
https://www.hertfordshire.gov.uk/services/libraries-and-archives/hertfordshire-archives-and-local-studies/hertfordshire-archives-and-local-studies.aspx yes i would say its Cybil in the various ways of spelling it then including the latin tying the dates in to her seems to be my problem also thank you for the informaion on the Evelyn family in Rickmansworth I am thinking it must definitely be the same family it seems to be such and unusual surname in the records shes named on her marriage record as De Evelynge
There are some records of Alice, George and Henry Eveling in Rickmansworth at about that time. I don't think I've seen the name Sibillan. Would that be Sybil or Sibyl (Sibylla in Latin)? For example there's a Sible Evelynge daughter of George Evelynge born in Rickmansworth in 1572. In Family Search batch C072795.
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Parish registers did not start until c1538
https://www.familysearch.org/en/wiki/History_of_Parish_Registers_in_England
thank you for that great information
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Here is a case in Common Pleas concerning Henry Evelyng, of Rickmansworth, in 1543.
Bucks. The master of the Savoy Hospital in Middlesex versus William Evelyng, executor of Henry Evelyng, of Rykmonsworth, Herts, for waste, or destruction of property Henry had for a term of years in Chalfount, Bucks.
http://aalt.law.uh.edu/aalt1/H8/CP40no1116/aCP40no1116fronts/IMG_0054.htm
This could be the Henry Evelyn of Rickmansworth, husbandman, registered will in 1536.
In Herts Names Online. His will might tell you more.
And this is the same guy, in a Common Pleas case from 1533.
London. Henry Evelyn, of Rikmersworth, yeoman, is the plaintiff versus Gregory Lovell, of Hardelyngton/Harlington, Middx, gent, for a debt of 20 pounds.
Second entry:
http://aalt.law.uh.edu/H8/CP40no1076/bCP40no1076dorses/IMG_6421.htm
how interesting thank you he sees to have been a bit of bounder as the saying goes lol
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Here is a case in Common Pleas concerning Henry Evelyng, of Rickmansworth, in 1543.
Bucks. The master of the Savoy Hospital in Middlesex versus William Evelyng, executor of Henry Evelyng, of Rykmonsworth, Herts, for waste, or destruction of property Henry had for a term of years in Chalfount, Bucks.
http://aalt.law.uh.edu/aalt1/H8/CP40no1116/aCP40no1116fronts/IMG_0054.htm
This could be the Henry Evelyn of Rickmansworth, husbandman, registered will in 1536.
In Herts Names Online. His will might tell you more.
And this is the same guy, in a Common Pleas case from 1533.
London. Henry Evelyn, of Rikmersworth, yeoman, is the plaintiff versus Gregory Lovell, of Hardelyngton/Harlington, Middx, gent, for a debt of 20 pounds.
Second entry:
http://aalt.law.uh.edu/H8/CP40no1076/bCP40no1076dorses/IMG_6421.htm
where would I search for his will would you know please?
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You can order a copy from the Hertfordshire Record Office.
Start here
https://www.hertfordshire.gov.uk/services/libraries-and-archives/hertfordshire-archives-and-local-studies/hertfordshire-archives-and-local-studies.aspx
Click on Search Herts Names Online
Surname Evelyn, Date range 1500-1550
You will get one result, for Henry. Add to shopping list. They send it by email, I suppose a pdf. The cost is about 10 pounds.
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There's also a will of Roger Evelyn of Stanmore, Middlesex, in 1508. Stanmore is not far away, 3 or 4 miles. This is a Court of Canterbury will, which can be viewed on Ancestry, with a subscription. I'll have a look and tell you what's in it.
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D973231
Here are the details from his will:
Will made 28 July 1508. Roger Evelyn of Stanmore, Middx.
Wife Alice gets a bull, 120 sheep, 8 horses, 3 colts.
Daughters Agnes and Margaret get 4 bullocks and 20 shillings each towards their marriages.
Two sons John and Robert get sheep, horses, etc. John gets a great brass pot, Robert a little brass pot.
To Henry Evelyn my brother a bay gelding and a dun nag.
Wife Alice and John Warnar to be executors. Robert Waryner and Henry Evelyn to be overseers. Henry Evelyn husbandman was one of the witnesses.
So Henry Evelyn is his brother. Roger was quite well off - all those sheep and horses.
This is what they have on him in Wikitree:
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Evelyn-5
Which also has Henry as his brother and William as their father.
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thank you
You can order a copy from the Hertfordshire Record Office.
Start here
https://www.hertfordshire.gov.uk/services/libraries-and-archives/hertfordshire-archives-and-local-studies/hertfordshire-archives-and-local-studies.aspx
Click on Search Herts Names Online
Surname Evelyn, Date range 1500-1550
You will get one result, for Henry. Add to shopping list. They send it by email, I suppose a pdf. The cost is about 10 pounds.