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Hi
Is anyone able to look up this record for me please. Im hoping the marriage says Patricks father is Anthony Carrick Esq. Patrick married Mary Anne Hunt.
Barton-on-Irwell Register Office or Registrar Attended. Registers at Salford.
Ref: BAR/3/18
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Lancs OPC has
https://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html
Marriage: 4 May 1852 All Saints, Barton upon Irwell, Lancashire, England
Patrick Carrick - Eccles
Mary Ann Hunt - Eccles
Groom's Parents: Anthony Carrick & Mary
Bride's Parents: George Hunt & Rose
Witness: Joseph Beswick; Jane McGuire
Married by: Fr John Kershaw
Register: Marriages 1831 - 1855
Source: Private Transcription
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Many thanks for this mckha489! If the transcription is correct this is not the right Patrick Carrick.
Patricks parents were Anthony Carrick and Lucinda Lawless.
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the baptisms of Patricks children give his wife as Maria Anna formerly Hunt,
at the same church as the wedding , have you checked that his mother Lucinda had no other name such as Mary
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Hi Radcliff
Lucinda was also known as Lucy and called it interchangeably.
The other option is its a bad transcription and Mary is Lucy.
Regards
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I've side tracked a bit here!
Did Patrick have a brother, Anthony Lawless Carrick who married in Cookstown, Tyrone in 1854? He had a father Anthony Carrick - occupation Gentleman.
So was your Patrick born in Ireland please?
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If this Patrick was the right Patrick then yes he had a father Anthony and mother Lucinda who had a child Anthony Lawless Carrick. My cousin who is a descendant of Mary Ann Carrick is a sister to Patrick and Anthony Lawless Carrick along with Henry and Robert and possibly a Lucinda Carrick. My cousin had 8 DNA matches to Anthony Lawless Carricks descendants.
Henry Carrick and Mary Ann Carrick moved to Australia.
St Flannan's Cathedral Graveyard, Killaloe, Clare, Ireland
Headstone inscription: Erected by Robert Carrick to the memory of his mother Lucy Carrick, who died January 20th 1840 aged 44 years. And his father Anthony Carrick, who died August 26th 1867 aged 88 years.
Also for Patricks family there are no children named Anthony or Lucy. re Irish naming tradition
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St Flannan's Cathedral Graveyard, Killaloe, Clare, Ireland
Headstone inscription: Erected by Robert Carrick to the memory of his mother Lucy Carrick, who died January 20th 1840 aged 44 years. And his father Anthony Carrick, who died August 26th 1867 aged 88 years.
Anthony's death registration has been transcribed on Irish Genealogy as Carrigg.
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I was going to look on irishgenalogy.ie at it but its a purchase one...
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Revolution -
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie
is a FREE site! It's wonderful and often you can view the actual certificates for events occurring after the start of Civil Registration.
There are also Parish Registers on there. It's not exhaustive of course and not ALL records are included. However you can search AND view completely free.
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At some stage Im assuming the Carrigg one will be free to view. Until then
Photocopies or official certificates can be obtained via the following link.
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Oh Shucks! Sorry Revolution -- you are correct, you cannot view that death certificate for free.
So sorry, I should have checked - but I also thought that you were under the impression that Irish Genealogy was a subscription site - I misunderstood you.
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No problems at all! If it was my family Id probably pay the 5er but hopefully at one point it will be.
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Oh Shucks! Sorry Revolution -- you are correct, you cannot view that death certificate for free.
It should be viewable at some time in the future.
Was the death reported in a newspaper?
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Maiden Stone,
I had looked - Carrick but just had a look and there is a snippet - Carrig. I don’t have access though.
Limerick Reporter 3rd September 1867
I assume that ‘Death of Killaloe Celebrity’ refers to him
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I have looked at the article you spotted Heywood - that particular Anthony Carrig was 83 years old when he died.
'He was of Killaloe, the possessor of some property in the town, and the best fishing rod maker in Europe. He was an intelligent and well informed man, and in early life served a portion of his time to Mr Barry, a bookseller and stationer, formerly in Limerick.'
As Heywood said - the newspaper was Limerick Reporter 3 Sept 1867 - and the report simply says 'A few days ago' - regarding the date of death.
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Thanks Pennines - interesting ;)
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I have looked at the article you spotted Heywood - that particular Anthony Carrig was 83 years old when he died.
'He was of Killaloe, the possessor of some property in the town, and the best fishing rod maker in Europe. He was an intelligent and well informed man, and in early life served a portion of his time to Mr Barry, a bookseller and stationer, formerly in Limerick.'
As Heywood said - the newspaper was Limerick Reporter 3 Sept 1867 - and the report simply says 'A few days ago' - regarding the date of death.
If this Patrick was the right Patrick then yes he had a father Anthony and mother Lucinda who had a child Anthony Lawless Carrick. My cousin who is a descendant of Mary Ann Carrick is a sister to Patrick and Anthony Lawless Carrick along with Henry and Robert and possibly a Lucinda Carrick. My cousin had 8 DNA matches to Anthony Lawless Carricks descendants.
Henry Carrick and Mary Ann Carrick moved to Australia.
St Flannan's Cathedral Graveyard, Killaloe, Clare, Ireland
Headstone inscription: Erected by Robert Carrick to the memory of his mother Lucy Carrick, who died January 20th 1840 aged 44 years. And his father Anthony Carrick, who died August 26th 1867 aged 88 years.
Also for Patricks family there are no children named Anthony or Lucy. re Irish naming tradition
St Flannan's Cathedral Graveyard, Killaloe, Clare, Ireland
Headstone inscription: Erected by Robert Carrick to the memory of his mother Lucy Carrick, who died January 20th 1840 aged 44 years. And his father Anthony Carrick, who died August 26th 1867 aged 88 years.
Anthony's death registration has been transcribed on Irish Genealogy as Carrigg.
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Hello!
I am a novice on this site, but have dipped in and read some interesting posts that relate to my own family research; in particular Henry Carrick (1830 -1864). Henry's parents were Anthony Carrick and Lucinda Lawless. Henry migrated to Australia, marrying a Mary Cave in March 1854 at St Patrick's Catholic Church in Adelaide, which at the time was a fledgling colony proud to be established with free settlers instead of convicts. They moved to Ballarat in Victoria, quite likely following the gold rush. Henry died in his early 30s, leaving a wife and a young family, and while he must have been respectable, he left his family destitute. Mary applied to have her eldest children made Wards of the State, with no further information about her available after this time.
I would really like some information on Henry's Irish family. Clearly they were of some standing, with evidence of ownership of property in Killaloe. When did Henry leave Ireland and if possible, why? Why was his Australian family left destitute upon his death? Further information about Mary Carrick nee Cave is also sought.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
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I don't know if this is your Henry Carrick --- but a Henry 'Carrig' born about 1830 sailed from Plymouth (England) - to Adelaide on 24th March 1851. The ship was 'Marion'.
This actual query is on the Lancashire Board of Roots Chat, as the original poster was referring to an event in Lancashire.
I am just thinking, that for your query relating to Mary Cave - you may have more luck on the Australia Board and repeat your query about Mary - giving a reference link to this previous correspondence.
Is there anything in the Australian newspapers concerning Henry's death?
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https://bound-for-south-australia.collections.slsa.sa.gov.au/1851Marion-Passengers.htm
On here (scroll down) it shows:
Henry Thomas Carrig, 21 yrs from Co Clare
Mary A Carrig, 23 yrs from County Clare
You may already know this. The ship,was apparently wrecked but all passengers saved.
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How interesting, Heywood -- I never knew of this website.
Some useful snippets written about some passengers as well, where they have sadly died on the journey etc.
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I searched the ship’s name after your post, just to see if there was any other reference and found that site, Pennines.
There are others listed from County Clare too.
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Heywood --- your site gave Henry a middle name of Thomas, but also identified him as being from County Clare. My info was very basic from Find My Past and was only a transcription - no actual image of the entry in the ship's record.
Yes - I noticed others from Clare as well on the page. Still don't know if it's the correct Henry though. The Mary A. with him could have been a wife or a sister. But Jules's Henry, married in Australia.
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Revolution in reply #6 says that Henry and Mary A moved to Australia.
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Jules0912 has made a post on the Australia Board. However there are very obvious problems.
It is possible that this Carrick family is not correct.
The advice has been to revisit and question the research, and look at the primary source documents which are readily available online.
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=886463.0
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Thank you for the update Neale.
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Thank you to all who responded.
I had been looking throught the SA passenger lists for a Henry Carrick, and only recently realised it may also have been the Irish Carrigg. Will follow this up.
Great idea about following up on Mary Cave on the Australian board.
Yes, there is information about Henry's death (coronial inquiry) and his funeral notice, plus a story in the Ballarat Star in Oct 1865 (18 months after Henry's death) requesting approval for her 3 older children to be taken to the Industrial School, aka, an institution for orphaned and/ or destitute children. I have records of the Carrick children as Wards of the State (Victoria).
Again, to all who have responded a very big thank you. I am learning a lot!
Julie