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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Derbyshire => England => Derbyshire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: chocaholic89 on Wednesday 26 January 22 09:33 GMT (UK)
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Hello,
I'm wondering if someone can help me please find the marriage register for William Hall and Ann Handley in Belper, Derbys in 1849. There are 3 C of E churches in Belper St John, St Peter and Christ Church, they may be in one of those? Although on freebmd it just says Derbys for marriage.
Many thanks
Jill
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Use marriage locator website to see if you can hone in on the venue.
https://www.marriage-locator.co.uk/
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FreeBMD gives the GRO Ref as Dec 1849 Derby vol 19 p601 and lists the names of the people married as
Samuel Corden
Rebecca Jane Fox
William Hall
Ann Handley
James Taft
Mary Hodgkinson
John Wheatley
Susanna Whitehurst
According to the Derbyshire Registrars Marriage Index transcribed by Derbyshire FHS William Hall married Mary Hodgkinson in 1849 at St Marys Roman Catholic Chapel, Derby and Anne Handley married John Wheatley at Derby Register Office. Both marriages have the GRO Ref as given above.
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On Census William Hall is born c 1824 Burslem. Staffordshire and Mary Hall nee Hodginson c 1826 Derbyshire (various places)
She remarried 30 Mar 1884 to Gregory Rewcastle, she was age 56
Her Father Abraham Hodgkinson
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thank you to those that have replied, the marriage locator didn't bring anything up, but emeltom brings up some points from Derbys FHS and it seems Ann Handley is not the right Ann for William Hall. On the 1851 census they are in my neck of the woods Ashton-Under-Lyne, both born in Belper with a 1 yr old son John. On the 1871 census they have Williams mother Mary living with them still in Ashton.
Hope this helps locate the marriage.
Many thanks
Jill
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Whilst I haven't located every one, checking their childrens births on GRO's own site, it would appear that Ann's maiden name was Lake!
A marriage took place 4/7/1847 Ashton under Lyne between a William Hall (son of Henry) and Anne Lake (dau. of John).
Annette
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The marriage was registered Ashton & Co (for Ashton and Oldham) 1848 Vol 20 page 27.
Spans the boundaries of Cheshire and Lancashire
Children so far with mother's maiden name Lake
All registered Ashton under Lyne
John 1850
Elizabeth- 1852 (Leake)
Henry 1854 --died age 3, 1857 registered D Quarter 08D page 302
William 1856
Harry 1859
Robert 1868
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Emily 1861 has mother's maiden name Smith. I can't find a female with last name Hall mmn Lake 1861 + or - 2 years
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Marriage was at St. Michael's.
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Possible for Ann's parents
John Leake married Elizabeth Jenkinson 6 September 1813 St John the Baptist Chester
ADDED Ref Family Search image Witness at the marriage were-Robert Robinson, Elizabeth Meredith and Ann Nannay
Everyone signed except John who made his mark.
Children
Robert bap 24 November 1815 St John the Baptist Chester (Leek)
William bap 22 June 1817
John bap 28 May 1819
Emma bap 11 March 1821
Robert bap 18 May 1823 - died 4 March 1861 age 38
*ANN bap 26 Feb 1827 -one of these is an error, transcriptions of BT's on ancestry
Elizabeth 25 March 1827 -
Mary bap 1 January 1832
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Son Robert born 1815 was buried 1 December 1815 Ref: Family search index of BT's
Image states 10 days old
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Found the images of Ann and Elizabeth Baptism on Family Search it's not an error.
Ann must have been born 1825/6 and they forgot to have her baptized until they were ready to baptize Elizabeth in March of 1827
John the father is a Shoemaker.
son Robert 1823-1861 was a Hatter
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Hi,
Re Churches in Belper no marriages took place at the Chapelery of St. John, St. Peter’s was not built until 1824/5
So many B M D’s took place in Duffield.
Many people from Belper and Milford derbyshire moved to Lancashire in the 1840/50, mainly
Cotton Mill workers, they had been employed and Schooled by the Strutt family so most were able to read and write.
It was important to state where you were born, because if you became chargeable to say Ashton you were removed to the parish of your birth.
1851, note William gives birth year as 1826, and his Mother Mary Hall is living next door. However in the 1871 Census he gives a birth year of1824, this date matches with the following:-
Henry Hall = Mary Webster 8.4.1816 Duffield
John hall son of Henry Hall & Mary residence Milford occupation Bleacher
William Hall son of Henry & Mary. “. Milford. “. Labourer
Jane Hall son of Henry & Mary. “. Milford. “. Filer
All images are on ancestry, but note although Ancestry state St. Peter’s they actually took place at the Chapelary of St. John. Asked Ancestry many times to correct this!
The is connection to first page of the register, just to prove.
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/61408/images/RS00013360_4011479-00433?treeid=&personid=&hintid=&queryId=9613da7dc57611a2f9d1d81c4cdcd11b&usePUB=true&_phsrc=iaw25&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true&_ga=2.61102764.1858843811.1643457666-1594253244.1642882887&pId=2016795
Lots of information for you to check, but hope it is of some assistance.
Regards
Spendlove