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Title: swedish merchant seaman
Post by: giblaw on Tuesday 18 January 22 00:26 GMT (UK)
 :)hi I am trying to find any information about Oscar Christian (Kristen) Johnson  born in Sweden abt 1891 i believe he was in the merchant navy and lived in the tynemouth area he married Mary Agnes Butler St Cuthberts Church Tynemouth. 1/Feb/1928  he may have Died in 1956 not sure when Agnes Died as they had a son Charles Cornelius Johnson Born abt 1928 and he went into an orphanage at an early age any information regarding this family would be so helpful. Thanks Chris
Title: Re: swedish merchant seaman
Post by: middlesbrough on Tuesday 18 January 22 05:54 GMT (UK)
His discharge papers in 1938 state the following

Oskar Christian Johnson
Born 1891 Soddenhamm, Sweden
Dis. No. 767366 Ranking AB
Height 5'11 1/2
Eyes blue
Hair fair
Complexion fair
Distinguishing marks  Ballet Girl on R. Arm


Title: Re: swedish merchant seaman
Post by: giblaw on Tuesday 18 January 22 06:38 GMT (UK)
 :) Thank you so much for that info fantastic that is really helpful maybe somebody may have some Swedish information. cheers chris
Title: Re: swedish merchant seaman
Post by: middlesbrough on Tuesday 18 January 22 08:02 GMT (UK)
Do you have the marriage certificate for Oscar and Mary?
Title: Re: swedish merchant seaman
Post by: River Tyne Lass on Tuesday 18 January 22 09:07 GMT (UK)
 Local cemetery burial records for Tynemouth district (excluding Blyth area) are held at North Shields local studies.
I can't go just yet because of work, but if you wish, I will try at some point within the next few weeks to see if I can find Oscar in the records in 1956.  Let me know if you would like these records found.
Incidentally, were they Catholic?  This is a local Catholic Church you have mentioned.
Title: Re: swedish merchant seaman
Post by: HMac on Tuesday 18 January 22 09:43 GMT (UK)
With regard to his MN service he appears to have served as follows - the records from the Fourth Register of Seamen are probably not complete and he will have done other voyages. If you need his full WW2 record you would need to consult    BT 382/887 at National Archives Kew by visit or via a researcher. Any questions re MN service please feel free.

127069 – QUERIDA – 27.2.1924
146684 - BRITISH PREMIER – 16.4.1924
146684 – BRITISH PREMIER – 28.6.1924       
140298 - BRITISH VETERAN – 23.12.1924
136347 – SOURABAYA – 20.10.1938
147327 - EMPIRE LIGHT – 23.5.1939
110533 – CORONDA – 29.9.1939
162135 - COITY CASTLE – 11.7.1940
168968 - EMPIRE BAFFIN – 22.6.1943
169178 - EMPIRE ABBEY – 9.3.1944

Regards
Hugh
Title: Re: swedish merchant seaman
Post by: giblaw on Wednesday 19 January 22 05:34 GMT (UK)
 :)hi middlebrough   i am attaching Oscar Johnson marriage cert  also his son Charles Johnson marriage cert hope this can help with more research about him charles had two step brothers from his mothers first marriage  Tom Butler & Martin Butler one of them we believe was in the merchant navy too also Charles Mother Mary Agnes Butler we think Died when Charles was young as he went into an Orphanage hope this all helps. Chris
Title: Re: swedish merchant seaman
Post by: jamcat95 on Wednesday 19 January 22 07:18 GMT (UK)
Hi
Here is your Oscar from Sweden. He was born 23 Dec in Söderala Parish. His parents were Nils Erik Jonsson and Karolina Sonesdotter.
You'll have to be a member (which is free) to see the later records in the 1900s.

1891 - Birth - Söderala Parish:
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/A0017478_00156#?c=&m=&s=&cv=155&xywh=191%2C1048%2C5317%2C2581

1910 - Family in Household Examination - Ljusne Parish:
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/00201459_00261#?c=&m=&s=&cv=260&xywh=47%2C11%2C4629%2C2200

1915 - Family in Household Examination - Ljusne Parish:
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/00201461_00068#?c=&m=&s=&cv=67&xywh=-36%2C1523%2C5171%2C2457

1924 - Family in Household Examination - Ljusne Parish:
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/00201465_00067#?c=&m=&s=&cv=66&xywh=-115%2C-97%2C6256%2C2972

1915 - Oscar in Household Examination - Ljusne Parish:
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/00201462_00266#?c=&m=&s=&cv=265&xywh=-20%2C62%2C4967%2C2360 - nr 5


Ian

Title: Re: swedish merchant seaman
Post by: jamcat95 on Wednesday 19 January 22 11:10 GMT (UK)

1915 - Oscar in Household Examination - Ljusne Parish:
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/00201462_00266#?c=&m=&s=&cv=265&xywh=-20%2C62%2C4967%2C2360 - nr 5


The minister had noted that he was a whaler and that he was believed to be dead in 1915.

Ian
Title: Re: swedish merchant seaman
Post by: jamcat95 on Wednesday 19 January 22 11:25 GMT (UK)
But, as can be seen in this transcribed seaman record that he was dismissed 22 Aug 1919.

Title: Re: swedish merchant seaman
Post by: jamcat95 on Wednesday 19 January 22 11:30 GMT (UK)
The same record but a destination recorded and a little more info:

Title: Re: swedish merchant seaman
Post by: giblaw on Friday 21 January 22 06:13 GMT (UK)
 :D Thank you all for the help with this query the info from the Swedish records is fantastic it confirms all what we hoped for. Thank you so much. chris
Title: Re: swedish merchant seaman
Post by: jamcat95 on Friday 21 January 22 09:06 GMT (UK)
Cheers Chris
If you need help with the records or want anymore just ask.

Ian

Title: Re: swedish merchant seaman
Post by: giblaw on Tuesday 08 February 22 05:30 GMT (UK)
Hi Ian  You mentioned this what was written The minister had noted that he was a whaler and that he was believed to be dead in 1915. Is it possible to find a Whaling ship he may have served on and possibly a picture of the ship if available this would be the last piece of the jig saw puzzle your help has been fantastic. Thank you once again. Chris
Title: Re: swedish merchant seaman
Post by: jamcat95 on Wednesday 23 February 22 09:25 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris
Sorry for the late reply. I haven't been able to find any ship he served on. Sorry about that.

Ian

Title: Re: swedish merchant seaman
Post by: giblaw on Thursday 24 February 22 04:36 GMT (UK)
Thank you Ian so much for trying much appreciated