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Just curious, my mother has a great grandfather born in 1813, and I realized that might be a record in my entire family tree, or the family trees of anyone I know of, even older relatives, living. Made possible by her father, grandfather and great grandfather all having children in their mid 40s. Can anyone beat it..or a grandparent, surely not :o?!!!
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Just curious, my mother has a great grandfather born in 1813, and I realized that might be a record in my entire family tree, or the family trees of anyone I know of, even older relatives, living. Made possible by her father, grandfather and great grandfather all having children in their mid 40s. Can anyone beat it..or a grandparent, surely not :o?!!!
18th century - that's the 1700s.
I am living, and all four of my grandparents were born in the 1800s, and are, of course, deceased. All died in the 1900s in New South Wales. So their parents would be my great grandparents. Yes, all eight of my great grandparents were born in NSW in the 1800s.
My older brother was born in NSW in the 1930s and his youngest son was born in NSW in the first decade of this millenium. :)
JM
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My husband’s great grandfather was born in 1825
His father’s great grandfather was born 1783
One step further his 2x great-grandfather was born about 1721
They were all older fathers except my husband who is very much alive. 😆
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2 of my great grandfathers were born in 1836 and 1838. My mother only died in 2008, and she had great grandparents born in the 1790s.
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Just curious, my mother has a great grandfather born in 1813, and I realized that might be a record in my entire family tree, or the family trees of anyone I know of, even older relatives, living. Made possible by her father, grandfather and great grandfather all having children in their mid 40s. Can anyone beat it..or a grandparent, surely not :o?!!!
18th century - that's the 1700s.
I am living, and all four of my grandparents were born in the 1800s, and are, of course, deceased. All died in the 1900s in New South Wales. So their parents would be my great grandparents. Yes, all eight of my great grandparents were born in NSW in the 1800s.
My older brother was born in NSW in the 1930s and his youngest son was born in NSW in the first decade of this millenium. :)
JM
Oh yes I know 1700s is 18th century, I just wondered if it is possible anyone does have one born then, I think it is just about possible but would require two very old fathers in their 60s and another in their 30s or 40s, or maybe someone in their 100s + now with older than average forebears. Do any of your great grandparents beat my Mum's great grandfather's 1813 birthdate :)?
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Hi my dad's grandfather was born in 1839 and his great grandad in 1809. My great grandad was 51 when grandad was born and grandad was 49 when my auntie was born in 1939 so two generations in 100 years!
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:) Yes, 1811 but that date is relying on NSW C of E church records and a family Bible entry only. His Dad was 1765. If only he had been a convict there would be more detailed official records.
ADD I am replying to our OPs question of me ..... Do any of your great grandparents beat my Mum's great grandfather's 1813 birthdate :)?
and that's what GRAND is really about isn't it ;D Hi my dad's grandfather was born in 1839 and his great grandad in 1809. My great grandad was 51 when grandad was born and grandad was 49 when my auntie was born in 1939 so two generations in 100 years!
JM
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Yes, two great grandparents born in the 1700s
My father was born 1886, his parents
My paternal grandfather was born in 1836, his parents in 1803 and 1794.
My paternal grandmother was born in 1845, her parents in 1798 and 1810.
Both my father and I were from second marriages so I was born over a hundred years after my grandfather. My mother was twenty years younger than my father, so my great grandparents on the maternal side were not born until the mid 1850s, more than fifty years after my paternal great grandparents.
I should add that I am very much alive and a long way from my centenary, as are all my class mates from my school days. ;D
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As I understand it, the American President John Tyler born 1790 still has a grandson living. :)
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Sorry no one living.
Me 1956
My Father 1907
His Father 1864
His 1837
His 1789
Trish :)
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As I understand it, the American President John Tyler born 1790 still has a grandson living. :)
Yes, he does.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2020/11/29/president-john-tyler-grandson-harrison/
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There's this thread : https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=253342.0
JM
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I am now 82. My gt-grandparents cannot approach the 1700s, but I am a little surprised that all eight of them were born between 1838 and 1850 - remembering that age differences between husband and wife were not unusual. My one claim to unusuality is the possession of an original photograph of a woman born in 1783 !
My father-in-law claimed that his grandfather was born in Waterloo year (1815) but we have found that it was actually 1827, in Northern Ireland - so we are not 100% certain ....
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Yes, two great grandparents born in the 1700s
My father was born 1886, his parents
My paternal grandfather was born in 1836, his parents in 1803 and 1794.
My paternal grandmother was born in 1845, her parents in 1798 and 1810.
Both my father and I were from second marriages so I was born over a hundred years after my grandfather. My mother was twenty years younger than my father, so my great grandparents on the maternal side were not born until the mid 1850s, more than fifty years after my paternal great grandparents.
I should add that I am very much alive and a long way from my centenary, as are all my class mates from my school days. ;D
Wow, Jebber, I think you are the Rootschat winner :D :).
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As I understand it, the American President John Tyler born 1790 still has a grandson living. :)
Yes, he does.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2020/11/29/president-john-tyler-grandson-harrison/
Ah, thanks maddy and Erato, so it IS possible :). But the conditions there are so unusual, two fathers in successive generations having children in their 60s and 70s, it must be very very rare.
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My great grandfather was born 1815 (from age on death cert, he could have been older), his son, my gf, was born in 1876 and my dad in 1920. So on my line we managed 4 generations in 200 years!! I descend from ggf's 2nd marriage.
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My great grandfather was born 1815 (from age on death cert, he could have been older), ...
... or younger :D Quite a few people lost count and believed (or others did) they were older than they were.
One of my gt-grandmothers died in Ireland in 1916, age recorded on death certificate was 72. I think she lived on her own and the death was recorded by a nurse visitor. The real age was 66.
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Not me but my cousin's wife has just celebrated her 90th birthday. Her father was born in 1869. His father was born in 1826. And his father was born in 1789.
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I made a mistake went back one generation too many so no great grandparents born in 18th century
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At the opposite end of this, all 8 of my great grandparents were born in the 1900s, 5 of them in the 1910s and 2 in the 1929s. My daughter was born 92 years after my great grandma was born. So 5 generations were born in under 100 years. That's not a long time I don't think.
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My paternal gt gt grandfather was born in 1791 and paternal gt gt grandmother in 1801(close but no cigar
Ed
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My great grandfather was born 1815 (from age on death cert, he could have been older), ...
... or younger :D Quite a few people lost count and believed (or others did) they were older than they were.
One of my gt-grandmothers died in Ireland in 1916, age recorded on death certificate was 72. I think she lived on her own and the death was recorded by a nurse visitor. The real age was 66.
His 1st marriage was 1834/35, so can't have been much younger. I'm descended from a son from his 2nd marriage, born in 1876. In my experience of older Irish death certs, ages are rarely accurate, but of the many I have where I can prove the age of the person, I've only seen one where the person was younger than the age on the death cert. And that was only by one year. I have about a dozen where the person is quite a bit older than the age on the death cert (3-14 years). People just didn't know exactly how old they were.
Oh the joys of Irish research. ;D ;D
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This is going to fail on a technicality, but I have a (distant) cousin who has very long generations in his ancestry (from our common ancestor, he is actually the same generation as my great grandfather yet born 92 years later...). He and I are both in our 50s.
His father was born in 1928 (he could have still been alive but actually died quite young so this is where it fails); his great grandfather was born in 1784 (as the younger brother of my 5x great grandfather).
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Closest I can get is my mum having 2 of her Grt grandparents born in 1804 and 1808. Although not into the 18th cent my daughter born this cent does have 2 of her grt grandparents born in the 19th cent.
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Not me but my cousin's wife has just celebrated her 90th birthday. Her father was born in 1869. His father was born in 1826. And his father was born in 1789.
Interesting, so her father was about 62 when she was born, his father, 43 when he was born, and his father 37. So only one father very much above the normal parental age. Well, that just pips Jebber who has two b. 1794 & 1798, but technically your cousin's wife is not a Rootschatter so Jebber still gets the Rootschatter accolade :D.
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I am quite late joining this post, but I have a great-auntie aged 94, whose great-grandfather was born in 1788. 141 years between them.
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A bit off topic, as there is no 18th century connection, but there are 131 years between me and my great-grandfather ;D
Queenie :)
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A bit off topic, as there is no 18th century connection, but there are 131 years between me and my great-grandfather ;D
Queenie :)
There are 148 years between me and my great-grandmother. ;D ;D ;D
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My maternal great grandfather was born in 1845, married in 1874, died in 1921 all taking place in a small Lincolnshire village called Whaplode. Family records state that he never left the village and the surrounding farm land where he worked from the age of 10 or 11.
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One of my paternal great grandfathers was born in 1838 in Longford. He married twice, firstly in 1862 and secondly in 1889 and had 18 children in total. Both of his wives hailed less than half a mile from his home. My grandfather was part of his second family and was born in 1895. The youngest of the 18 children was born in 1905.
It's fascinating to think he would have been alive during The Great Hunger (Famine) that happened in Ireland from 1845 to 1852.
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If you had asked 5 years ago, before my dad died, he could have claimed a gt grandfather born in 1796. As it is, he is my oldest gg grandparent.
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My great-grandmother died in 2003, so she doesn't qualify, but if she were still alive, she would 'only' be 103. She had two sets of great-grandparents who were born in the 1790s.
On her father's side:
Robert Feaviour born 1792 in Mendham, Suffolk.
Harriet Buckingham born 1791 in Mendham, Suffolk.
On her mother's side:
John Bunning born 1797 in Ashwicken, Norfolk.
Rebecca Harrison born 1797 in East Winch, Norfolk.
Her father and mother were both the youngest children of their families, born when their fathers were in their 50s.
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All my maternal 3rd g grandparents were born in the 1700's
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Yes, I do. My father, Joseph Plenty was born in 1900 (last of 16). His father, John Tiley Plenty, was born in 1842, and his father, Samuel, my great grandfather, was born in 1797
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That's impressive. The best I can do is :
gg-grandfather, 1804
g-grandfather, 1833
grandmother, 1881
father, 1922
me, 1947
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I recently discovered a line in my family, a relative married a man 42 years her senior and they had a long wait until their first child arrived in the 1950's, so a good chance that individual is still alive (he/she was alive in the early 2000's). The elderly father was born in the 1870's and his grandfather was born in 1801 so very close!
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Thankyou everyone who has responded to my query. What an interesting assortment of answers! Roger Plenty
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Nope no way near
If anything my family tend more the other way - my four children all attended their great, great grandmothers (on their father's side) 100th birthday (she was 86 when my eldest was born) and even she was born in the last century
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Only just John Luffman b Alford (Lincs 1798) m Sarah Sizer b Alford Lincs 1791. The rest just made the early to mid 19th century
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Well done! We are a small select number!