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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Topic started by: brigidmac on Sunday 09 January 22 15:27 GMT (UK)
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ive finally worked that out this man is the great grandfather of BOTH my cousin and a dna match in USA +( their respective great grandmothers were both unmarried and domestic servants )
I need help filling some gaps now .
john Thomas FARNSWORTH was born in Barnsley yorkshire england to single mother
sarah ann FARNSWORTH .
baby + mother lodged at her married sisters home in 1971
in 1972 Sarah ann Fmarried John MOXON .
on C1881 + C1891 John thomas FARNSWORTH has his step fathers surname MOXON +
he is a builders labourer in Barnsley in 1891
biological son john henry PRITCHARD is born at westoe durham in sept 1891
I cant find his mother * oops sorry Lillian /Melinda PRITCHARD in 1891 census
by 1901 she is a live in domestic servant in south shields and her son is boarding nearby and attending school
meanwhile John Thomas FARNSWORTH gets married in Barnsley 1892
and wife christiana nee BROOKE has 2 sons in Barnsley 1894 George + 1896 Ernest
and Albert in staincross 1895
his daughter emily was born Darton, Yorkshire 1899
john thomas Farnsworth was in Darton C1901 ; i think his job was plater at colliery over ground
so my question is
how did a builder meet ANOTHER domestic servant : Harriet DOBSON
she had his son John William DOBSON in 1902 in Stockton on the Forest ,Yorkshire.
her occupation is given as domestic service on birth certificate
In 1901 census she was a visitor age 23 with her birth mother sarah williamson (DOBSON)no profession given but could have been helping look after her half siblings .
I d really like to find a census for Melinda Pritchard in 1891( b 28 nov 1869 ealing middlesex )
though described as foreign subject in 1901
photos on trees of the Farnsworth men do bear family resemblance to my cousin
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There is no Durham birth in Sept qtr 1891 for a John Henry Pritchard??
EDIT
1901 entry shows he was 8yrs old?
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yes he had two illegitimate sons one with two different ladies Melanie LIlian PRITCHARD + Harriet Dobson as well as $ with his wife Christiane BROOK
I will reread and check my punctuation and wording
sorry it wasnt clear
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birth must have been registered late john henry pritchard 1891 oct Q
south shields Durham ENGLAND
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the birth certificate saya 149 eldon street westoe south shields
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Birth was registered December qtr 1891.
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I cant find his mother Lillian MELINDA in 1891 census
Is she Lillian Melinda or Melanie Lilian - what surname is she under when you find her?
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Baptised as Melinda Pritchard in Ealing in 1870. No second name
Tazzie
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1901 entry shows her as Malinda Pritchard b 1872 for anybody trying to find the entry
Freebmd births Melinda Pritchard Dec qtr 1869 Brentford 3a 82
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Thank you both.
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Ok she's in Durham...
Ancestry have her transcribed as Meandia Picharkett. Living Union Alley South Shields Durham
Entered born Ealing 1869 +/- 2 living Durham
Tazzie
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Oh great find tazzie
I think I was told that before but hadn't understood i.ll try and find it now
Sorry millipede I have altered original post to make it clearer
Melinda was called lily on her son's school record and Lillian on one marriage I think
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Ok I found her at 4 Union Alley
I've seen that address somewhere before
She is a maids help and it might say Inn in pencil on line above for another maids help
There is also a Kitchenmaid .
But I don't know if they work elsewhere
Ancestry lists them as being in same household as a young labourer + wife +baby
But they are at no 3
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There are no DNA links to John Thomas FARNSWORTH s legitimate children but there are 2 links thru his aunt Lavinia Farnsworth who had son before marriage to ROBERT HARRISON
her grandaughter also lavinIA FARNSWORTH married STOTT
There are DNA matches with that surname
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Solved I think
The secret children belong to John William Farnsworth b 1872 to single mother Harriet FARNSWORTH
His baptism 25th Dec in Barnsley is on same page as that of Thomas Harrison FARNSWORTH born to Robert Harrison + Lavinia Farnsworth before they married both named on baptism
But a different Thomas Herbert FARNSWORTH was also born to single Harriet baptised march 1870
Note on record says
Received into this church Jan 12th 1870
Is that the birth date ?
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this would mean that the people who match highest have wrong mother for the thomas H Farnsworth who married Elizabeth HEWITT 1865 also known as CARR step fathers name
they would be 3rd cousins + 3rd cousins once removed which matches the dna amounts better .
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Have had another DNA match & with protools & the scenario is wrong
The dna connections were thru lavinia STOTT s brother
So it was more probably william STOTT 1870 who had secret childen .
Back to the drawing board