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Old Photographs, Recognition, Handwriting Deciphering => Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs => Topic started by: M_ONeill on Saturday 08 January 22 21:47 GMT (UK)
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Hello all,
I'm trying to determine whether the girl in this photo from sometime in the 1940s (exact year unknown) is my grandmother. I've attached a composite comparison image below.
My grandmother was born in 1929 and I would estimate that the girl in the older photo would be around mid-to-late teens, maybe early twenties at a push. The location is correct, being taken on Medley's Farm, Pattingham, Staffs. which was the village where she lived at the time.
Things I think are in favour of it being the same person: same chin/jawline, same or similar nose, similar forehead and (maybe) eyebrows.
Things I'm not 100% sure about: the eyes - though I think the glasses may be distorting them slightly in the later picture.
Any thoughts would be gratefully accepted! :)
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I think it is highly likely that they are the same person, they have the same shaped face and share other facial features.
Carol
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I too have no doubt it's the same person.
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Another vote for the same person :)
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Thanks for the replies, everyone! I was fairly certain this was a picture of my grandmother - but then I became less sure. It's a new photo to the family and mum and I spent a good long time poring over it. I think if you look at a picture long enough you can start talking yourself out of things you're fairly sure you can see!
The full photo can be seen here on the Staffs Past Track website (https://www.search.staffspasttrack.org.uk/Details.aspx?&ResourceID=22588&PageIndex=1&KeyWord=break%20meadleys&SortOrder=2) (as the photo is in a collection and not owned by me I wasn't sure about posting it directly). I don't know if there are any clues to narrow down a particular date - Past Track gives a fairly wide possible range of 1940-1949.
Given other details in my family tree, I'd say it's very unlikely to be the tail-end of the 40s - say 1947 or onwards. I don't know if there's a way to tell if this picture was taken either during the war or in the post-war period.
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I'd have to say not the same person, the nose and hair parting are wrong. Also the girl is reasonably young in the 1940s picture and is a lot more than 40 years older in the 1979 picture.
However if you go back to the original 1940s picture, she looks very similar to the lady at the back left, nose and hair are a better match, even the bit of ear poking out from under her hair.
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ohbodder~
Younger woman would be around late teens early 20s. born 1929
Older woman crca early 50- ish (1929-79)
THe woman that you've identified has a shorter chin. the two shown have similar sized ones. also the 1979 lady has a perm. The lady you've identified (back left) has naturally curl hair. Cheek bones and nose are very similar.*
* I mean between the two in the composite photo
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I understand what you are saying ohbodder. I think the woman you have identified could be related as there are some similarities, but I think the young girl and older woman are one and the same. :)
At first glance I would have suggested the older woman is around 70, but her skin looks firm so I just think the hair colour and glasses make her look older in that photo. :)
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I am still of the same opinion.
Carol
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Thanks once again for all the replies everyone!
In terms of age, my grandmother did always look a little older than she was; she'd had ten children after all! She was only in her sixties when she died in the late 90s.
The other woman that Ohbodder identified did catch the eye of my mum and I as a potential relative. We think it's possible that it may be my grandmother's sister, Ivy. We can't easily tell though, as we have no photos of her.
Ivy was about eight years the elder, being born in 1921. Her married name was Garratt, and her husband's name was Horace John Garratt. Ivy died in 2004 and is buried in Neenton cemetery near Bridgnorth, Shropshire. Throwing the above out there into the aether just in case someone knows of her and might have a picture for comparison!
Interestingly, as a child my mum remembers her mother wearing her hair in a very similar way to the woman on the left. Worn long, brushed down forward and then rolled back up into position around the head. She only adopted the perm hairstyle in her later years.
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An uncle sent through a photo of my grandmother that I'd never seen before. I think this one makes it super clear that the original photo is indeed the same person!
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Yes - very much the same one :)
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It's a yes from me.
Carol