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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wales => Caernarvonshire => Topic started by: big g on Friday 07 January 22 19:06 GMT (UK)
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Not sure if I have the correct spelling, it could be Girianfa; can anyone help please, whereabouts in Llanllyfni, is this dwelling?
I have come across it twice recently, once written on the back of a photo, with the names "Mrs.G.E.Hughes and Megan" dated c 1919.
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1903 place of death for Daniel Parry b.1828 - d.1903.
Glenys
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The probate record has a slightly different spelling, although Llanllifni is also incorrect:-
PARRY Daniel of 28 County Road Penygroes Llanlyfni Carnarvonshire quarryman died 17 September 1903 at Girianfa Penygroes. Probate Bangor 10 November to Jane Parry widow and Henry Parry schoolmaster. Effects £213 5s
The nearest word I can find in the area is Rhianfa - e.g. Rhianfa, Tan'rallt, Penygroes. Perhaps he died at a quarry. There are slate quarries at Tan'rallt (Tan-yr-allt) there and a Glan-yr-afon, sometimes Glan'rafon.
David
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Hi
According to newspaper account Daniel died unexpectedly at, or outside, his son in law William Griffith Thomas' house. William and another worker died the following day in a quarry accident, and an inquest was held for the 3 the same time. According to Probate, Daniel's address was 28 County Road, Penygroes, and place of death Girianfa. According to newspaper William's address was EIRIANFA (a common house name), High Street, Penygroes. In my opinion Girfania should be EIRIANFA.
Emyr
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I can see the same, or similar, article now and agree with EmyrBorth.
https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3606237/3606242/54/
David
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David,
Thank you for your reply, he did indeed have a son Henry born 29 October 1869 Arthog, Merionethshire, he married a Jane Williams from Trawsfynydd, had four children.
Glenys
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Emyr,
Thank you, you have given me help in the past.
The house name appears on two photographs which had belonged to a relative, Llenyn Griffiths, late of Muriau and Siop Griffith. Llenyn's mother Annie Griffiths was a Williams from Meillionydd,Vron (my nain was her sister Lizzie).
Lizzie and Annie's nain was Catherine Parry 1813, married to Ellis William Williams - I have managed to find a lot of info on them and their descendants, am now looking at all the Parry relatives as I think the two photo's are connected to the Parry family.
I will attempt to post the pics on here.
RE the William Griffith Thomas s-i-l you mention, I don't have, as yet, marriages for Daniel's children and step children - he married a widow, Jane Davies, who had several children.
Work in progress.
p.s. During the war my family and I lived Bro Hedd, County Road, where my brother was born. The house belonged to Thomas and Annie Griffiths of Muriau.
Glenys
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I have found a different article which gives the name as Vrianfa: https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3415488/3415495/174/vrianfa
I think William Robert Thomas was living at 18 High Street in 1901 and married Alice Parry in 1902. Alice is on the 1901 census as daughter of Daniel.
You can see the address on Google Street View but has a different name, although he may have moved.
David
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Hi
Machpelah/Macpelah, Penygroes burial records gives name of William's abode as EIRIANFA.
Emyr
http://www.yffor.com/index.html
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Emyr and David,
Diolch yn fawr, for all your help, I would never have found the information you have given me.
Glenys
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Not sure if I have the correct spelling, it could be Girianfa; can anyone help please, whereabouts in Llanllyfni, is this dwelling?
I have come across it twice recently, once written on the back of a photo, with the names "Mrs.G.E.Hughes and Megan" dated c 1919.
and
1903 place of death for Daniel Parry b.1828 - d.1903.
Glenys
Amended date for photo 1923.
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For consideration when you research the Thomas side of it.
Tirionfa, 61 High Street, Penygroes.
1911 Census has Robert and Gwen Ellen Hughes at this address
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/2353/images/rg14_34419_0249_09?treeid=&personid=&hintid=&queryId=f52947ba39755ce67a940d18b449404f&usePUB=true&_phsrc=a63-1778884&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true&pId=1864962
Married 23 yrs i.e circa 1887/8
There is a marriage for Robert Hughes and Gwen Ellen Thomas June Qtr 1887 Carnarvon.
How old is Megan in the photo?
Google street for the address in case the photo is of them outside a dwelling.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.0559161,-4.2830349,3a,22y,112.97h,84.84t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1shK_6uW5icJhrdFCKZoB3Aw!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DhK_6uW5icJhrdFCKZoB3Aw%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D169.08513%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656
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Some other records for Eirianfa
1901-11 Census Eirianfa, Penygroes
Richard Owen Head Married 1857 Blacksmith Criccieth
Sarah A Owen Wife Married 1860 - Bangor
William G Owen Son Single 1893 - Penygroes
Richard Owen Son Single 1896 - Penygroes
Robert Roberts Boarder Single 21 1880 Blacksmith Llanfachraeth, Anglesey (1901 only)
The adjoining addresses are Upper Baptist Chapel House and 26 Baptist Street
1900 - Parry—Jones—December 19, at the Registrar's Office, Carnarvon, by Mr Daniel Thomas, Mr William Parry, Eirianfa, Penygroes, to Miss Ann Jones, Fair View, Penygroes.
1914 - Mr Ritchie Owen, mab Mr a Mrs Owen, Eirianfa, Penygroes
1915 - mab Mr a Mrs Richard Owen, Eirianfa, Penygroes
1917 - Humphrey Rolberts, Eirianfa, Penygroes
1919 - Mr W. G. Owen, Eirianfa, Penygroes,
David
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Mrs. Hughes and Megan, Taken 1923; I have found on freebmd a birth reg. Megan Hughes, mothers maiden name Thomas - Sept quarter 1921 Festiniog - 11b - 633.
Mrs. Hughes and Llenyn aka Thomas Elwyn Griffiths born 1918, son of Thomas and Annie Griffiths, Siop Griffith and Muriau.
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oops I obviously need help in resizing this photo....please! Managed to resize both pics. 8)
Both pics I have were taken indoors, poss a studio??
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Gwil,
Thank you for finding Tirionfa 61 High Street, plus the marriage, which confirms the name on the pics I have - Mrs. G.E. Hughes.
Glenys
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David,
Thank you for all that info on Eirianfa; from electoral registers?
I am so grateful for all the help and interest shown when I post for help.
Glenys
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Found probate for Mrs. G.E.Hughes.
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I can't see the full details of the 1921 census, because there is a fee, but Gwen Ellen, Robert and Blodwen, plus one other show when you search the free index. Depending how you search for the names, the other is Mary Jane (Roberts b 1889).
I think William D is elsewhere, possibly married to Ada.
You can see the names by hovering over the transcript or image without clicking.
David
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David,
Thank you. I haven't dared go near the 1921 census yet; so many people and places I wish to find.
I need to make a proper list ??? ::)
Glenys