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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: Jean Price on Wednesday 05 January 22 06:47 GMT (UK)
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Good evening all,
Apparently Michael Langan and his brother James Langan, both born in County Sligo, Ireland, were in the police force of New South Wales.
I have found James' death and his burial (with his wife Agnes) in the Field of Mars Cemetery.
Apart from James' death (and his wife's death) I have not found anything else in Trove or in BDM's New South Wales.
I must have lost any skills I may have held in finding information.
Any hints most welcome
Jean Price
New Zealand
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Where do you see them described as being in thee police force?
When would they have been in the police force?
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Probate Packet: https://search.records.nsw.gov.au/permalink/f/1ebnd1l/ADLIB_RNSW112438210
NRS-13660-38-15229-Series 4_494474 | James Langan - Date of Death 17/05/1959, Granted on 30/07/1959
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Unfortunately no mention of a brother in death notice:
http://ryersonindex.org/search.php
LANGAN James; Death 17MAY1959; late of Petersham; SMH 18MAY1959
(Left hand page in this link)
https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=lL5f5cZgq8MC&dat=19590519&printsec=frontpage&hl=en
Funeral notice: SMH 19MAY1959
https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=lL5f5cZgq8MC&dat=19590520&printsec=frontpage&hl=en
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Is this death worth checking?... maybe I’m doing something wrong as I can’t see this death on NSW BDM
Probate Packet: https://search.records.nsw.gov.au/permalink/f/1ebnd1l/ADLIB_RNSW111818327
NRS-13660-56-197-Series 4_670974 | Michael John Langan - Date of Death 24/04/1969, Granted on 06/06/1969
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There is a James LANGAN born Ireland who is a police constable in Queensland. Numerous mentions of him on trove - this one says he is native of Ireland and been in Australia for 20 years (in 1932). Does this fit with your James?
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article106389697
Search for "constable james langan", "constable j langan" etc.
Modified to add:
I see from the passenger list associated with the trip to Ireland mentioned in the above article their ages:
James 50 and Agnes 49 (in 1932).
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I see that a James LANGAN married Agnes ROGERS on 8 Sept 1919 in Queensland. (1919/B/23494)
There is a death notice for Kathleen DAVIES nee ROGERS, native of Co. Tyrone, sister of Agnes (Mrs LANGAN) in Gladesville in May 1949.
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article146661733
Is this a possibility for your James?
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A Michael LANGAN (brother of James) died in November 1915 in Sydney, numerous articles including this one:
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article15624512
(though Michael is a grocer)
From the death index his parents were Michael and Mary.
I'm guessing this is the family at Cartronplank, Cliffony North, Sligo in 1901:
Michael Langan 60 Head, farmer
Mary Langan 40 Wife
James Langan 18 Son
Annie Langan 17 Daughter
Michael Langan 15 Son
John Langan 13 Son
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Thank you to you all for the research you have done and the information you have found.
I will have to get back to my informant - who is the great grand nephew of these two Langan men. (and he lives in Canada). And he is going from stories told to him.
Maddys52 you were right with the family in the 1901 Irish Census.
I will now see what my Canadian informant has to say about all of this.
Again Thank You.
Jean Price
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If you wanted to spend a few $$, the Qld marriage certificate should include Groom's parents' names and father's occupation, as well as the groom's place of birth.
I would imagine the death certificate of Michael LANGAN in NSW in 1915 should provide accurate information if provided by his brother. Again, should include birth place, residency and parents' names.
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Thank you Maddys52 for your ongoing interest.
I will think about getting the certificates - except getting one from NSW is such a hassle - well it was the last tine I did so which was many years ago.
It is a pity that NSW does not include an age in their death index.
Regards
Jean
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You can get a transcription of certificates/s in NSW from the various transcription agents.
Much cheaper than an actual certificate. Also if you don't want all the info, or only want specific info, it can be cheaper still.
Dawn M
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you could try searching the NSW police gazettes, which are available online from 1860-1930 at the National Library of Australia's Trove website.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/title/1476
also look at these results from the same website (which cover all Aus newspapers) and see if there is anything relevant:
https://trove.nla.gov.au/search/advanced/category/magazines?keyword=%22Michael%20Langan%22~0
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A belated thank you to Valerie (who sent a private message), Billyblue and R Wilks.
Thank you for the extra suggestions in finding policemen in Australia
Jean Price