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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => London and Middlesex => England => London & Middlesex Resources => Topic started by: Brickwall Demolisher on Friday 31 December 21 11:04 GMT (UK)
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Hi, Many thanks for reading my post.
Between the 1851 & 1861 Censuses, three individuals leave the household.
Two Daughters aged 16 and 8 and one Son Aged 14. All children of my Great, Great, Great, Great Grandmother.
The eldest Daughter, ( CHARLOTTE ( b 1833 ) is in Liverpool giving birth to her first Son in 1854 and also gives birth to her second Son in 1856 in the Liverpool area.
The youngest Daughter ( b 1843 Lambeth ) is in Greenwich, Kent and Marries there in 1867. Future Censuses have her continuing to live in Kent.
1861 Census - The Mother was widowed between 1841 / 1851 and has been the
Head of Household since.
Her eldest Son ( CHARLES b 1833 ) is now Head of Household on the 1861 Census. He has Married, his wife is twelve years older than himself??. Future Censuses have them living in Lewisham.
My problem - I have hit a Brickwall as to what has happened to the third child HENRY SADLER Born 1837.LAMBETH
I have not been able to find anything on HENRY at all. A marriage certificate was what I was hoping for.
Their Father was JOSEPH SADLER b 1802 ?? and his occupation was CARPENTER
Much appreciated if there is there anyone who is able to help on finding HENRY SADLER, Born LAMBETH, SURREY 1837
Census Ref - H0107 / Piece 1572 / Folio 67 / Page 27
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Charles Sadler ...
There is a marriage 19 Feb 1854 of a Charles Sadler occ Blacksmith father Joseph occ Carpenter to Elizabeth Harris (widow) father William Heath. That would match the 1861 entry
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Hello
If you can't find him in the 1861 census, and he hasn't died, try name variations. And there are a couple of Henry Sadler army records around that period on FindMyPast. Passenger lists?
Good luck
Martin
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1861 Census - The Mother was widowed between 1841 / 1851 and has been the
Head of Household since.
Do you know if she remarried or when she died? In case Henry appears with her later on.
Not all chaps married either so he could have remained single.
There's a Henry who died Jun 1918 age 81 Godstone district Surrey - have you ruled him out?
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A Henry Sadler married Mary Ann Austin in Lambeth in Q3 1861, and they can be found in Lambeth 1871 onwards, although his YoB is 1835/6. One of their children was Charles Frederick born 1874 Lambeth. The marriage doesn't appear to be online though, so you'd need to buy the certificate.
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A Henry Sadler married Mary Ann Austin in Lambeth in Q3 1861, and they can be found in Lambeth 1871 onwards, although his YoB is 1835/6. One of their children was Charles Frederick born 1874 Lambeth. The marriage doesn't appear to be online though, so you'd need to buy the certificate.
The groom's father's name was Thomas Sadler, a bricklayer, which, sadly, doesn't match with the info in the original posting. (the parish record for this marriage is on Ancestry)
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A Henry Sadler married Mary Ann Austin in Lambeth in Q3 1861, and they can be found in Lambeth 1871 onwards, although his YoB is 1835/6. One of their children was Charles Frederick born 1874 Lambeth. The marriage doesn't appear to be online though, so you'd need to buy the certificate.
The groom's father's name was Thomas Sadler, a bricklayer, which, sadly, doesn't match with the info in the original posting. (the parish record for this marriage is on Ancestry)
Dont know how I missed that! Thanks Jen :)
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There is a Henry Sadler of the right age appearing in FindMyPast's Crime, Prisons & Punishment records in 1853 /54 but nothing to confirm that it is your Henry
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There is a Henry Sadler of the right age appearing in FindMyPast's Crime, Prisons & Punishment records in 1853 /54 but nothing to confirm that it is your Henry
There are several similar records on Ancestry.
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JOSEPH SADLER b 1802 ??
The Mother was widowed between 1841 / 1851
According to Jane Sadler, husband Joseph died 3 April 1850.
June 1850 Lambeth 4 183
Sadler, Joseph
age 43
Joseph buried at St. Mary Lambeth, 8 April 1850.
Abode 96 York St.
Age 43
Couple of rough settlement exams in Lambeth for Jane Sadler (on ancestry)
Quickie from end of 1844
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/1557/images/31952_a013160-00082
One from Dec 1851
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/1557/images/31952_a013125-00190
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Might be Joseph's mother Sarah Sadler in 1851 in Halstead Place, Camberwell in 1851. Wyndham Road area, as per exam
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGGJ-8F5
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There is a Henry Sadler of the right age appearing in FindMyPast's Crime, Prisons & Punishment records in 1853 /54
Brush Maker.
1854 Parkhurst Prison record says next of kin, Mother Mrs Sadler, resides in Camberwell.
Released 21 May 1858.
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Might be Joseph's mother Sarah Sadler in 1851 in Halstead Place, Camberwell in 1851. Wyndham Road area, as per exam
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGGJ-8F5
Sarah and Sadler children are in Camberwell in 1841.
Possible baptism of Joseph at St. Mary Newington, 17 June 1807 :-\
Joseph s of Joseph + Sarah Sadler
born May 19 1807
Would make Sarah a bit young, to say the least, going on her census ages
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More exciting stuff for Brickwall Demolisher.
There is a settlement report on a Joseph Sadler, 3 Aug 1835
In Horsemonger Lane for Debt
Wife Jane, applying for relief.
Married 5 years ago at Norwood.
Two children, Charles, 3, Charlotte, 1.
Ancestry trees don't know who he is!
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It mentions that Joseph's mother was also receiving relief.
And there is indeed a report on a Sarah Sadler, 27 January 1835, apparently she was 40.
Eight children, eldest William, 15.
Claims relief by renting a house and carry on business as an Ironmonger for 50 years.
Would make her about 13 when Joseph was born? Wrong person? Step mother? :-\
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Firstly Happy New Year to one and all,
Thank you to all for looking at my post and the information that you all have found. It's much appreciated. All very good researching, certainly have something's to work on from you all.
Stay safe / Best Regards Just J