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HI there another look up please if possible! ;)
In 1861 Wigan
Dad: Edward ORMSHAW b. 1810 (age 50)
Mum: Mary ORMSHAW
John b. 1837 (age 24)
margaret b. 1840 (age 21)
Peter b. 1843 (age 18)
Alex?? b. ??
Mary b. 1853 (age 8 )
Edward b. 1858 (age 3)
If they cant be found in 1861 could an 1871 lookup be done for them please?? Hope im not asking too much :-[
Also a Peter ORMSHAW b. roughly 1833 (or around then anyway) who may be married to an Elizabeth.
Location in Wigan
Thanks heaps
Jen :)
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1871 ref: RG10/3884 Folio 56
John Ormshaw Head 35 b Wigan, Lancashire Coal miner
Elizabeth Ormshaw Wife 35 b Wigan, Lancashire
Edward Ormshaw Son 11 b Wigan, Lancashire
Catharine Ormshaw Dau 2 b Wigan, Lancashire
Thomas Conwell Boarder 60 b Ireland Hawker
Ellen Conwell Wife 48 b Ireland "
1 BoysWell Lane, Wigan, Lancashire
Sue
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This could be one of the Peter Ormshaw's
1871 ref: RG10/3881 Folio 8
Peter Ormshaw Head 24 b Wigan, Lancashire Coal miner
Margaret Ormshaw Wife 23 b Coppul, Lancashire
Alice Ormshaw Dau 2mths b Standish, Lancashire
38 High St, Standish, Lancashire
Reg Dist: Wigan
Sue
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1871 RG10/3885 Folio 14
Peter Ormshaw Head 44 b Wigan, Lancashire Carter
Margaret Ormshaw Wife 41 b Wigan, Lancashire
Margaret Ormshaw Dau 15 b Wigan, Lancashire Cotton Weaver
Thomas Ormshaw Son 10 b Wigan, Lancashire
Charles Ormshaw Son 8 b Wigan, Lancashire
Alice Ormshaw Dau 6 b Wigan, Lancashire
William Ormshaw Son 2 b Wigan, Lancashire
Thomas Ramsdale Boarder 70 b Wigan, Lancashire Cotton Weaver
177 Scholes St, Wigan, Lancashire
Sue
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Here's the family in 1861
Ref: RG9/2777 Folio 5
Edward Ormsher Head 48 b Wigan, Lancashire Cotton Weaver & Provision Dealer
Mary Ormsher Wife 35 b Wigan, Lancashire
Margaret Ormsher Dau 21 Unm b Wigan, Lancashire Cotton Spinner
Peter Ormsher Son 18 b Wigan, Lancashire Coal Drawer
Alexander Ormsher Son 16 b Wigan, Lancashire " "
Edward Ormsher Son 12 b Wigan, Lancashire " "
Mary Ormsher Dau 8 b Wigan, Lancashire
8 Patricks Row, Wigan, Lancashire
Sue
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1871 ref: RG10/3889 Folio 8
Edward Ormshew Head 60 b Wigan, Lancashire Shopkeeper
Mary Ormshew Wife 44 b Wigan, Lancashire
Mary Ormshew Dau 19 b Wigan, Lancashire Dress maker
Edward Ormshew Son 13 b Wigan, Lancashire
Mary Critchley Servant 24 b Wigan
Mary Critchley Dau Of Serv 3mths b Wigan
8 Patricks Row, Wigan, Lancashire
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WOW!! Thanks for that Sue!! :D
Where would people liek me be without those like you!?!?! ;D
The Ormshaws seemed to have a habit of using the same names over and over again...
Well guess im off to sort these groups out, no doubt that'l keep me busy for an afternoon! ;)
Cheers!! Jen :D
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It also seems that many lived in Patricks Row too! I have been given some information to my tree which suggests my Paternal gggreat grandmother was a Mary Ann Ormshaw born c1843 her marriage in 1861 gives her father as William Ormshaw and Address as Patrick's Row!
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the address is correct
All Saints
3rd June 1861
William Knowles,x,22,miner bachelor of Patricks Row
Mary Ann Ormshaw,x,19,spinster of Patricks Row
grooms father John Knowles,labourer deceased
brides father William Ormshaw,weaver deceased
witness to marriage John Critchely and Mary Heyes
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All Saints Wigan
2nd Jan 1861
William Ormshaw
aged 57 years
abode Patricks Row
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possibly allof the children were living in Wigan Lane previous to Patricks Row and their mother was Catherine
All Saints
Catherine Ormshaw wife of William
abode Patricks Row
aged 43 years
death from Dropsy
31st Jan 1847
Catherine Ormshaw wife of Edward
abode Patricks Road
aged 37 years
death from Asthma
11th Jan 1849
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Edward Ormshaw remarried
to Mary Lockern
1850 All Saints
widower aged 36 father John
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Of the information that I have been given which I am attempting to verify I have children of a William Knowles and Mary Ann nee Ormshaw being John, Catherine, Alice, Robert, Thomas, Samuel and Mary.
Catherine b 1867 is said to have been baptised at All Saints, Wigan parents address is listed as 49 Patrick's Row.
This is a new line of inquiry for me so thankyou very much for your help!
Regards Em
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All Saints is your family church
William Knowles.child of William and Mary Ann
born 3rd November
baptised 20 th November
abode Patricks Row
father a collier
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John born 4th May 1865
baptised 19th May
abode 46 Patricks Row
Catherine,born 28th November 1867
baptised 12th Jan 1868
49 Patricks Row
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Lancashire bmd is great for checking mothers m name
Wigan and Leigh
Catherine mother Ormsher 1867
Robert mother Ormshar 1870
Thomas Mother Ormesher 1872
Henry mother Ormesher 1875
Thomas,mother Ormesher 1877
Samuel,mother Ormesher 1880
Mary mother Ormshaw 1883
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Possibly someof the children marry
St Michael and All Angel Swinley Wigan
Catherine, Thomas and Robert
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That's Fab Thanks!
Will check this out... Just when I thought I had hit a wall don't you love it when you find it has a door! and someone gives you the key!
Em
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Thats Rootschat
a key to open the door,
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Hi em79,
I haven't been on rootschat in ages bu got an email saying you had replied to this topic.
if you check on my previous postings I've done a fair bit on my line regarding Alice Ormshaw daughter of Catherine adn William Ormshaw. I've got their whole family mapped out.
William and Catherine Ormshaw are my 4xggrandparents. Their daughter Alice married a Thomas Rudd. I found out about the Ormshaw connection largely to an illegitimate orphan further down the track who had his surname changed to Rudd.
If what you say is correct, then we may well be related. Its a small world!!
If you want more information just pm me, though i dont have everything on hand. It's now at my parents house but shouldn't be too much of a problem for me to retrieve within the next week :)
Looking forward to hearing from you
Jen