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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Hampshire & Isle of Wight => Topic started by: Mark2021 on Wednesday 22 December 21 10:17 GMT (UK)
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Hi I am after help with information on William Elford,I know he married Agnes Benham Pharoah on 2nd March 1878 in Portsmouth and his rank was a private in the 55th regiment based at Clarence barracks Portmouth he was 33 and she was 21 From the certificate his father was George Elford.
From the birth certificate of his daughter Charlotte Eliza born in November 1878 they lived in at Thomas street in Portsmouth still a private in the 55th regiment.
In 1880 they had a son William Fredrick Elford but in the 1881 census Agnes is a widow in tooting graveney so he must have died before 1881.
I am stuck going back to find Williams parents and I am unable to find any death information
Thanks for any help
Mark
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Welcome to rootschat
In 1880 they were in Kent
ELFORD, WILLIAM FREDERICK mmn PHAROAH
GRO Reference: 1880 March Quarter in ELHAM Volume 02A Page 986
ADDED Williams death
Deaths Dec qtr 1880
Elford William age 33
Elham reg dist 2a 534
There is a death in Portsmouth around the same time but the index and burial information for that one have age 15 ;)
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What was his fathers occupation on the marriage and who were the witnesses
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I wonder if this is him :-\
William Elford
National Archives reference WO 12/6537
Service number 625
Period 01/04/1871-30/06/1871
Rank Private
55th (Westmorland) Regiment Of Foot
HQ location Chukrata, India
Subcategory Regimental & Service Records 1871
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Hi I found that too but didn't know how to prove it was him.
His father's occupation was a labourer and the witnesses were G Pharoah and the Mark of Esther Hays
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Thank you. Witnesses are probably not much help unless Esther Hays was a married sister or similar.
The death certificate should show his occupation. The information on it is dependant on the knowledge of the informant so age could be wrong.
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Thanks
I will order the death certificate will let you know what I find
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The death certificate will not give any details of his birth place or parents.
In case you are not aware you can get a PDF copy for £7 direct from the GRO.
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/login.asp
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Thanks ,I do get my certificates from GRO
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Hopefully it will hold a clue. :)
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Thanks for the information the certificate came through today for William Elford a private in the 55th foot , he died from heart disease in 1880 at shorncliffe camp so looks like this could be the right one.
Is it possible to get military records from this time period to try and trace his parents.
Thanks
Mark
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Is it possible to get military records from this time period to try and trace his parents.
There doesn't appear to be any records for him on Find My Past (which hold many pre-WW1 records).
In general, if a soldier died in service or/and did not receive an army pension it is much less likely there will be any detailed record of his service – muster rolls and pay lists may be all that survive.