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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Bedfordshire => England => Bedfordshire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: Jeremy Pyne on Tuesday 21 December 21 13:39 GMT (UK)
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I wonder if someone is familiar with or has access to the Beds Historical Records Soc publication, 'inhabitants of Cardington 1782'. One of my ancestral families, the Hillyards were there around that time including x5 Great grandfather Samuel b c 1740 and wife Elizabeth (King I think). Just wondered what sort of info you can glean from the 1782 survey. Any info gartefully received especially in relation to Sam and family. His son James b 1769 will be my x4 GGrandfather.
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Harrowden, Cottage no. 28
Occupier
Elizabeth Hillyard, widow, born at Barford, S.L., 53
Children
Dorothy, in London, 21
Martha, S.L. & J., 17
Edith, S.L. & J., 15
James, 12
Joseph, 9
(S.L. & J. means Spins Linen and Jersey)
The editors have guessed that this is the marriage of Samuel Hillyard, widower, to Elizabeth Watson, widow, both of Cardington, Jan 5 1762.
Other sources noted by the editors give them as tenants of Thomas Brimley, and as receiving relief in the overseer's accounts.
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Bapts are on FreeREG of children.
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Great thanks Trish - Lots of detail ! I wish they'd done a few more of those surveys elsewhere - quite a resource. Wonder where I got 'King' from for Elizabeth - note to self - must keep better records. I'll check out Free Reg.
Thanks for the help
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Maybe she was Elizabeth King when she married Mr Watson.
Cardington PR transcript up to 1812 available here ....
https://archive.org/details/bedfordshirepari08bedf
Cardington PR extract 1813-1901 available within this excellent database.....
http://www.stevengibbs.me.uk/HomePage.htm
Regards John P (Beds FHS)
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There is a Eliz KING/Sam HILLYARD Marriage 01 Jan 1754 St Mary, Cardington
Entry has note Banns only; absent from the Marriage Register.****
The 05 Jan 1762 Marriage noted earlier has Sam Hillyard and Elizabeth Watson both as widowed.
Martha age 17 in 1782 may have married Thos THOROWGOOD 1787
There are also bapts to a SAM/ANN pre 1762 Marriage.
ANN wife of Samuel buried 16 Oct 1759
Trying to work out when born!
Dorothy, in London, 21 (1761)
Martha, S.L. & J., 17 (1765)
Edith, S.L. & J., 15 (1767)
James, 12 (1770)
Joseph, 9 (1773)
Going by 1762 Marriage Sam/Eliz's children are on FreeREG;
Bapts
SARAH 03 Oct 1762
MARTHA 22 Apr 1764
ANN 10 Feb 1765 buried 02 Dec 1765
SAM 02 Feb 1766 buried 29 Jun 1766
EDITH 12 Oct 1766
SAM 01 Feb 1767
ELIZ 11 Jan 1768
JAS 30 Apr 1769
JOS 29 Mar 1772
Enough for now for my brain!
I cant see anything for a Dorothy
Trish :)
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Thanks again Trish for the extra info
I think the picture building is of a family of an Elder Samuel, b 1718 who married Ann Fleming in 1739 who had 7+ children from 1740 to c 1760, including Samuel junior who was christened 1740. He appears to have married first Liz King in 1754, but secondly as a widower, Liz Watson (herself a widow) in 1762. Of their children that you list , my direct ancestor is James born 1769/70.
The Hillyards certainly look to be part of the desperately poor farm labourer sector of society for several generations. A grandson of Samuel junior George - my GGG Grandfather was variously described as a pauper, ag lab and in 1851 a rat catcher - his wife being a lacemaker - I think another common occupation in the area around then.
Thanks again for the pointers.
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There is a Eliz KING/Sam HILLYARD Marriage 01 Jan 1754 St Mary, Cardington
Entry has note Banns only; absent from the Marriage Register.****
As per the Cardington PR transcript....
The banns date is 1 Jan 1764 & mentions Elizabeth King from Willington
So must be a typo on FreeReg (if that's where this came from)
The marriage was at Willington on 24 Jan 1764 & Samuel is from Cardington
Regards John
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If in 1782 Elizabeth Hillyard was a widow and her last child Joseph baptised 29/03/1772, can you find the death/burial of husband Samuel between 1772 & 1782 as I can't find it in Bedfordshire.
I also think that Samuel Hillyard widower who married Elizabeth Watson widow in 1762 is the one born 1718 who married Ann Fleming in 1739, as Ann died in Oct 1759, and its possible that they are the couple who baptised daughter Sarah on 3/10/1762 as its before the marriage of Samuel born 1740 to Elizabeth King.
Cheers John
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Thanks for that John - quite a tangle - difficult to distinguish Sam the elder and Sam the Younger.
Sam the elder clearely married Ann Fleming and had children with her between 1740 and 58. Ann then died 1759.
I'd assumed a marriage date of 1754 was right for Sam and Liz King - as there are christenings of children of Sam and Liz from 1760 onwards. If the marriage was 1764, were the earlier children illegitimate maybe .....
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When Samuel Hillyard (1718) & Ann (Fleming) baptised their first son Samuel on 2 Nov 1740 he was referred to as junior, thus we can deduce that there was a Samuel senior (his father) living at the time. Sure enough a Samuel Hillyard senior was buried at Cardington on 31 Oct 1742. While Samuel & Ann continued baptising 10 further children between 1742 - 1759 (as well as 4 burials) and Ann wife of Samuel was buried on 16 Oct 1759 (thus Samuel must have been still alive at that point), it is laughable that there are so many trees on Ancestry that have SH born 1718 dying in 1742. In fact I've not found a death/burial for this Samuel nor for his son born 1740.