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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Warwickshire => Topic started by: draarcy on Saturday 18 December 21 02:19 GMT (UK)
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I am researching William Huntbach who married Mary Ann Lines on the 15 July 1832 at St Peter & Pauls, Aston near Birmingham.
I can not locate this couple in the 1841 census, or a death of William and also can not locate any children (possibly one in 1835 and another in 1838). Any ideas or information would be appreciated.
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For some reason did they add the surname Morris?? :-\
I found the baptisms below of three children with the surname Huntbachmorris
I think this maybe the birth of the youngest Phoebe with mothers maiden name Lines
MORISS, PHOEBE mmn LINES
GRO Ref: 1843 J Quarter BIRMINGHAM Volume 16 Page 321
Kay
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A William Huntbach dies at age 50 at Aston/Birmingham in 1865 ... would be 17/18 for the wedding though.
HUNTBACH, WILLIAM 50
GRO Reference: 1865 D Quarter in ASTON Volume 06D Page 202
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In 1841 the Huntbachmorris family I posted were living at Little Charles St in Birmingham as below
William Morris 30 Blank Maker T - not born in County
Mary Morris 32
Ann Morris 6 b Warwickshire
John Morris 4 b Warwickshire
Elineor Morris 0 b Warwickshire
Kay
Added - this looks like Elineor
MORRISS, ELEANOR mmn LINES
GRO Ref: 1841 J Quarter BIRMINGHAM Volume 16 Page 318
and her death
MORRISS, ELEANOR 0
GRO Ref: 1842 M Quarter BIRMINGHAM Volume 16 Page 257
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If relevent - this looks like the same family in 1851 living in Liverpool
William Morris 42 Ironplate Leveller b Belstone, Staffordshire
Mary Morris 41 b Birmingham, Warwickshire
John Morris 13 b Birmingham, Warwickshire
Phoebe Morris 7 b Birmingham, Warwickshire
Sarah Morris 5 Liverpool
Kay
Added - I see from previous posts that you already have this info https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=815784.msg6771968#msg6771968
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Don't know if this a red herring, but there are some HUNTBACH burials at St Saviour's church in Saltley, just south of Aston, but the ages are a little out:
William HUNTBACH, Duddeston, buried 19 Nov 1865, age 50
Mary HUNTBACH, Duddeston, buried 11 March 1866, age 48
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Thanks for everyone’s time & effort with this.
Yes Kay99, the Morris family indicated is part of the research, however connecting them to this marriage has three hypothesises:
1. The marriage is not connected to the family, just common names.
2. The family changed their name from Huntbach to Morris. Not sure why they would do this. Also the name Morris only appears after 1840 and only on some records. Also using the census birth places & years, a birth of a William Morris in Bilston is possible, but should it be Huntbach?
3. Mary Ann Lines marries William Huntbach, has two children. Then something happens to William Huntbach (maybe death, overseas), Mary Ann Lines ends up with William Morris (possibly no marriage record), the first two children sometimes use HuntbachMorris (would this be accepted practice at this time) as their surname, then the rest of the children use Morris as surname. Note that there is no mention of Huntbach on Eleanor's or Phoebe's birth registration (Only on the church records shown)
So research is to locate records to support or reject these hypothesises.
If anyone has any thoughts, possible documents/ sources of information that may assist, it would be appreciated.