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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Lancashire => Topic started by: chocaholic on Thursday 16 December 21 15:41 GMT (UK)
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Hello,
I'm looking to find the marriage of Thomas Grimshaw and Hannah King in Haslingden 1872. Freebmd says Hydnburn Register office- 36/75 I'm just wondering if anyone knows if this would be a non-conformist marriage or am I going to have to purchase the certificate?
Many thanks
Jill
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Have you found any of their childrens' baptisms please. If they were C of E - then it points to a Register Office Wedding (although you never know of course).
The marriage isn't on Lancs On Line Parish Clerk site - nor is it listed under England and Wales Non-Conformist records (BUT that isn't an exhaustive list).
I do think you will need to buy the certificate, unless a Hawk-Eyed Rootschatter finds it. (You could buy it as a Christmas present to yourself - if you've been good, of course!)
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GRIMSHAW Thomas KING Hannah 1872 Hyndburn Register Office or Registrar Attended Preston RM/36/75
possibly in a Catholic Church ?
looks like you will have to buy the marriage cert ?
did you know they moved to Manchester
GRIMSHAW John KING 1873 Haslingden Preston HAS/26/100
GRIMSHAW Mary Elizabeth KING 1874 Haslingden Preston HAS/28/18
GRIMSHAW David James KING 1875 Haslingden Preston HAS/29/42
then - Manchester
GRIMSHAW Rebecca KING 1878 Saint George Archives+, Manchester Central Library STG/155/71
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so - other members Saint George ,Manchester - i this a church - or an area ??
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Saint George - a Chapel of Ease BUILT 1790
lol...what is a Chapel of Ease
Google time
chapel of ease
an Anglican chapel situated for the convenience of parishioners living a long distance from the parish church.
so it looks like they were C of E - and used the Registry Office
any other thoughts members ??
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Marriage Locator Search Results
GRO Index: 1872 quarter 4, volume 8e, page 263:
This marriage was at Haslingden RO/NC (RD: Haslingden).
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Hiya Rosie
do you think Lancashirebmd have mistranscribed their record - I copied and pasted - says Hyndburn on there ..does seem a little strange seeing as the other records are Haslingden ?? and Hyndburn is Accrington area ( I think ...lol )
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I don't know the answer to that but I am thinking that marriage locator is more likely to be wrong if any are.
There is this entry which is similar and they were living in Accrington and married in Ebenezer Chapel, Accrington
RISHTON Whittaker
HANSON Margaret
1873
Hyndburn Register Office or Registrar Attended Preston RM/41/6
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do you think Lancashirebmd have mistranscribed their record - I copied and pasted - says Hyndburn on there ..does seem a little strange seeing as the other records are Haslingden ?? and Hyndburn is Accrington area ( I think ...lol )
Registration districts in S.E. Lancs changed a few times.
Haslingden registration district was established 1837 and contained Accrington. Local government reorganisation 1974 - Haslingden, Rawtenstall and Bacup formed Rossendale District Council. Accrington, Church, Oswaldtwistle + other places became Hyndburn District Council. The registration district for the area was renamed Hyndburn & Rossendale.
There was a suggestion a decade ago to replace the name Hyndburn District with Accrington because nobody outside the district knows where it is but the plan was shelved.
Some of my family married in Haslingden in 20th century, registration district on Lancs. BMD is Hyndburn. Births of their children, born in the town of Haslingden, registration district Rawtenstall.
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At the time in question though, ie the marriage - Accrington came under Haslingden Registration District.
I am surprised the words 'Hyndburn Register Office or ........' appear on Lancs BMD. It will be confusing for people - I hadn't noticed that before, but just checked my great grandparents who married in an RC Church in Accrington --- and that says Hyndburn Register Office or Registrar attended.
Hence the current area name is being used, even though it wasn't in use then.
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Thank you all for your responses, very helpful as always. You're superstars
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At the time in question though, ie the marriage - Accrington came under Haslingden Registration District.
I am surprised the words 'Hyndburn Register Office or ........' appear on Lancs BMD. It will be confusing for people - I hadn't noticed that before, but just checked my great grandparents who married in an RC Church in Accrington --- and that says Hyndburn Register Office or Registrar attended.
Hence the current area name is being used, even though it wasn't in use then.
Please note final paragraph in extract below.
www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/marriageinfo.php
Lancashire BMD
"Users' Guide to the Marriage Indexes"
"1. What areas are covered by the indexes?
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These records are now held at many separate register offices. .....
The registration districts in Lancashire have changed considerably since 1837 and very few
records are now held at the offices where they they were originally registered."
"2. What information is contained in the indexes?
From the indexes you can find out: ...
c. The Church, Chapel or Registration District where the marriage was solemnised ........"
d. The Register Office in Lancashire which now holds the records. There have been a large
number of boundary changes since the start of registration in 1837 and as a result many
records have been moved around. "
"Please bear in mind that until recently the main purpose of these indexes was to supply
certified copies of entries in registers. They were therefore written to help the registrar
find an entry on information supplied by an applicant for the certificate. Consequently
they do not always provide information in an ideal format for family historians. "