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Title: Eve M M Clarke
Post by: laura.hill1503 on Tuesday 14 December 21 23:01 GMT (UK)
Hi all,

I am doing a family tree for my partner and we are stuck at her grandma.

We know her Name was Eve M M Clarke
She married Philip Radmall twice once in 1948 and again in 1958, I have found a record for the marriage but not the actual certificate
She is believed to have been born in or around Dundee and died in Congleton, Cheshire in 1994
They had a Child Philip Luis Radmall 18/03/1948 born in Dundee, Died in Congleton, Cheshire 2015

Any help finding Eve would be much appreciated, we have her marriage certificates and Philip Luis' Birth Certificate but I'm hoping to find her parents.

TIA
Title: Re: Eve M M Clarke
Post by: Neale1961 on Tuesday 14 December 21 23:07 GMT (UK)
What information regarding her parents is on the marriage certificates?
Title: Re: Eve M M Clarke
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 14 December 21 23:33 GMT (UK)
If the son born 1948 is still alive you need to remove his name from your post.  Rootschat has a strict no living persons policy
Title: Re: Eve M M Clarke
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 14 December 21 23:37 GMT (UK)
The 1948 marriage was in England so you need the marriage cert to establish her fathers name.  It will also give you her full christian names

When & where did she die

When was she born?
Title: Re: Eve M M Clarke
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 14 December 21 23:45 GMT (UK)
Philip Orme Radmall was born 3.6.1927 & died 1990
Title: Re: Eve M M Clarke
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 15 December 21 00:19 GMT (UK)
An Evelyn Marie Margaret Clarke was b 1922 West Ham - mmn Lowis
Title: Re: Eve M M Clarke
Post by: laura.hill1503 on Wednesday 15 December 21 01:07 GMT (UK)
If the son born 1948 is still alive you need to remove his name from your post.  Rootschat has a strict no living persons policy

He is not, he died in 2017
Title: Re: Eve M M Clarke
Post by: laura.hill1503 on Wednesday 15 December 21 01:10 GMT (UK)
The 1948 marriage was in England so you need the marriage cert to establish her fathers name.  It will also give you her full christian names

When & where did she die

When was she born?

I have the marriage record but cant find the cert
Title: Re: Eve M M Clarke
Post by: laura.hill1503 on Wednesday 15 December 21 01:11 GMT (UK)
The 1948 marriage was in England so you need the marriage cert to establish her fathers name.  It will also give you her full christian names

When & where did she die

When was she born?

Unsure about her birth date but she died in Congletin, Cheshire in 1994
Title: Re: Eve M M Clarke
Post by: Forfarian on Wednesday 15 December 21 08:33 GMT (UK)
Elusive lady.

There is no birth of an Eve M* M* anywhere in Scotland from 1900 to 1930, and no Eve M* in Dundee from 1900 to 1930.

The English deaths index normally tells you the person's date of birth.

And there is no birth of a Phil* L*s in Dundee 1946 to 1950.

There are two births of Philip Louis in 1948, one, surnamed Harkess, in Campsie, Stirlingshire and the other, surnamed Schofield, in Aberdeen.

The Campsie one is interesting, because at that time a lot of women who, for one reason or another, couldn't give birth in their home, had their babies in Lennox Castle Hospital in Campsie. See https://historic-hospitals.com/2015/05/01/lennox-castle/
Title: Re: Eve M M Clarke
Post by: Neale1961 on Wednesday 15 December 21 09:24 GMT (UK)
And there is no birth of a Phil* L*s in Dundee 1946 to 1950.
Philip Louie Radmall birth registered 1948 St. Clement.
Title: Re: Eve M M Clarke
Post by: Forfarian on Wednesday 15 December 21 10:11 GMT (UK)
And there is no birth of a Phil* L*s in Dundee 1946 to 1950.
Philip Louie Radmall birth registered 1948 St. Clement.
Ah. Good find. It didn't occur to me to leave off the s at the end.

Title: Re: Eve M M Clarke
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 15 December 21 12:41 GMT (UK)
You say she died in Cheshire in 1994 - what was her surname at that time as there is no death under Radmall

Philip O Radmall  appears to have re-married in 1989

Son's death is registered as Philip Louie