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Title: William George Brown born 13/01/1885
Post by: KennyBrown.NI on Friday 03 December 21 21:51 GMT (UK)
I am looking for my Great Great Uncle:

William George Brown
Born: 13th January 1885
Birth Location: 31 Norwood Street, Belfast
His parents were Mary Ann Duncan and George Brown

1901: He was living with his grandparents and Aunts in 20 Coolderry Street, Belfast per the Census.

After this I am unsure what happened to him. Is anyone able to find out?
Title: Re: William George Brown born 13/01/1885
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 04 December 21 00:23 GMT (UK)
Have a look at your subject header birthdate & your post birthdate.  Same issue as on your other post here

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=856091.msg7244464#msg7244464

Have you checked the English/Irish 1911 censuses
Title: Re: William George Brown born 13/01/1885
Post by: KennyBrown.NI on Saturday 04 December 21 00:40 GMT (UK)
Sorry 13th January 1885 Correct.

Birth located here:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1885/02661/1981029.pdf

I have tried to locate him. But could only find him in the 1901 census.
Title: Re: William George Brown born 13/01/1885
Post by: KennyBrown.NI on Sunday 03 September 23 21:24 BST (UK)
Still stuck with this search.
I know on his parents census record in 1911 it says 6 children born, 6 alive. So he is alive in 1911 but location unknown. Would love to know what happened to him.
Title: Re: William George Brown born 13/01/1885
Post by: Comberton on Sunday 03 September 23 21:40 BST (UK)
Could this be him in 1911?
www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QYDD-N7T2
Title: Re: William George Brown born 13/01/1885
Post by: KennyBrown.NI on Sunday 03 September 23 22:32 BST (UK)
O my goodness. Yes thank you soo much!!!
Title: Re: William George Brown born 13/01/1885
Post by: shanreagh on Sunday 03 September 23 22:45 BST (UK)
Still stuck with this search.
I know on his parents census record in 1911 it says 6 children born, 6 alive. So he is alive in 1911 but location unknown. Would love to know what happened to him.

So is this the 1911 census you refer to?

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai001545968/
Title: Re: William George Brown born 13/01/1885
Post by: KennyBrown.NI on Sunday 03 September 23 22:47 BST (UK)
Yes
Title: Re: William George Brown born 13/01/1885
Post by: shanreagh on Sunday 03 September 23 23:16 BST (UK)
There are several deaths on irish Genealogy and this one is for a William Brown married, soldier who dies of heart disease near Belfast Hospital on 15/2/1918

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1918/05197/4435855.pdf

And this, along with several others who died of gunshot wounds following a riot on 9/8/1921
 https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1921/05092/4398166.pdf

and this, reported by his sister.....did he have a siste Eliza Jane?

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1921/05098/4400607.pdf

Actually you could do your own searching on here

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/

for possible marriages, births of children and deaths as you will know the family better than we do as far as names for children etc. 
If William married he may have named his children after family memebers in line with irish naming patterns.
Sorry the shrink link does not seem to be working

https://www.familysearch.org/en/wiki/Ireland_Naming_Customs#:~:text=Traditional%20Naming%20Pattern,-A%20traditional%20naming&text=First%20son%20usually%20named%20for,for%20the%20father's%20eldest%20brother
Title: Re: William George Brown born 13/01/1885
Post by: KennyBrown.NI on Monday 04 September 23 03:17 BST (UK)
Hey no sister called Eliza Jane. Also seen the records for the soldier and details don't match up. But thanks. Yes I'll have to go through all marriage records after 1911 to see if I can find him anywhere on island of Ireland getting married.
Title: Re: William George Brown born 13/01/1885
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Monday 04 September 23 07:12 BST (UK)

Quote
Could this be him in 1911?
www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QYDD-N7T2

Here's the actual 1911 census link-

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Royal_Exchange/Drury_St_/74795/
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000176275/



Title: Re: William George Brown born 13/01/1885
Post by: Sinann on Monday 04 September 23 09:33 BST (UK)
There is a marriage in 1911 of William George Browne, his father George is a gardener.
Different address from the census but he could have changed jobs.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1911/09949/5617067.pdf

And he signed without the e on Brown.
Title: Re: William George Brown born 13/01/1885
Post by: gaffy on Monday 04 September 23 16:10 BST (UK)

There is a marriage in 1911 of William George Browne, his father George is a gardener.
Different address from the census but he could have changed jobs.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1911/09949/5617067.pdf

And he signed without the e on Brown.


Early children to this couple included Eileen Charlotte in 1913 (married John Charles Maxwell in 1944), Violet in 1915 (died 6 weeks after birth) and William George in 1918, whose birth registration showed their address as 3 St. Joseph's Terrace, (Upper) Wellington Street ...

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1918/01273/1527768.pdf

... which turned out to be the same address these folk were still at nearly 40 years later when Charlotte died, so a long time there:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1956/04406/4147590.pdf

I also wondered about this death of a William George Brown at '3 Wellington Street' in 1959:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1959/04352/4127133.pdf

Title: Re: William George Brown born 13/01/1885
Post by: KennyBrown.NI on Friday 02 February 24 22:01 GMT (UK)
Thanks gaffy & Sinann,
Sorry for the late reply.
Great links thanks so very much.