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Title: Drapery merchant
Post by: EJF41 on Friday 26 November 21 18:22 GMT (UK)
Can anyone help with details of a Drapery merchant and shop owner Alexander Fraser Gardner, Married to Amelia Young.
Title: Re: Drapery merchant
Post by: suey on Friday 26 November 21 20:00 GMT (UK)

May I suggest that you give dates for your couple, estimates will do and perhaps an idea of exactly what you are looking for.  People are very willing to help but need a little more to go on  :)
Title: Re: Drapery merchant
Post by: GR2 on Friday 26 November 21 20:47 GMT (UK)
They married in Coatbridge/Old Monkland in 1887.

The 1891 census shows them in Portland Street, Coatbridge:

Alexander, 26, manager drapery department of store.
Amelia, 28,
William, 3,
Amelia, 1

The 1901 census shows them in Almondbank Terrace, Edinburgh:

Alexander Fraser, 35, draper (manager), b Slamannan, Stirlingshire (contradicted by 1871 census),
Amelia, 37, b. Coatbridge,
William, 13, scholar, b. Coatbridge,
Amelia, 11, scholar, b. Coatbridge,
Agnes, 8, schgolar, b. Coatbridge

The 1871 census shows Alexander with his parents at "Houses E of Burnfoot, New Monkland":

William Gardner, 36, blacksmith, b. Slamannan, Stirlingshire,
Agnes Stevenson, wife, 30, b. Muiravonside, Stirlingshire,
Andrew Gardner, 10, scholar, b. Muiravonside, Stirlingshire,
William Gardner, 8, scholar, b. Muiravonside, Stirlingshire,
Robert Gardner, 6, b. New Monkland,
Alexander Gardner, 4, b. New Monkland,
Charlotte A. Gardner, 1, b. New Monkland,
Margaret Nimmo, 15, general servant

The 1881 census shows Alexander with his parents at Ballencrieff Toll, Bathgate, W. Lothian:

William Gardner, 46, blacksmith,
Agnes, 39,
William, 18, scholar,
Alexander, 14, draper's apprentice,
Charlotte "N.", 11, scholar,
Margaret M., 9,
Agnes S., 7,
Marion M., 4,
Mary, 2

The four youngest children are born in Bathgate.

Title: Re: Drapery merchant
Post by: MonicaL on Friday 26 November 21 22:14 GMT (UK)
Welcome to RootsChat, EJF41  :)

Gravestone details for Alexander here www.gravestonephotos.com/public/namedetails.php?deceased=158757

GR2 has mentioned Alexander's parents from the censuses. Burial details for them here www.findagrave.com/memorial/183727296/william-gardner

Monica
Title: Re: Drapery merchant
Post by: MonicaL on Friday 26 November 21 22:47 GMT (UK)
From an obit that appeared in Midlothian Advertiser 30 September 1949, it states that Alexander had been been Managing Director of Patrick Thomson Ltd. for 37 years up to 1944. He was also a JP. He left his widow and one son and one daughter when he died.

See here for some details on the company Patrick Thomson Ltd www.housefraserarchive.ac.uk/company/?id=c0725 and also www.scotsman.com/news/look-back-edinburghs-patrick-thomsons-shopping-centre-scotland-627489

Monica
Title: Re: Drapery merchant
Post by: GR2 on Friday 26 November 21 23:12 GMT (UK)
1861 Heatherstacks, Muiravonside, Stirlingshire:

William Gardner, 26, blacksmith, b. Slamannan,
Agnes, 19, b. Muiravonside,
John, 4, b. Muiravonside,
Elisabeth, 2, b. Muiravonside,
Andrew, 0, b. Muiravonside

1851 at Parkhead Farm, Falkirk, working for John Barclay, farmer of 50 acres, employing 1 labourer:

William Gardner, servant, 16, ag. lab*., b. Slamannan

* FindMyPast says "coal miner", common sense and FreeCEN (which is generally more reliable) says ag. lab.
Title: Re: Drapery merchant
Post by: EJF41 on Friday 26 November 21 23:13 GMT (UK)
Thank you very much, I’m at work but will do so, more. Appreciate it.
Edward
Title: Re: Drapery merchant
Post by: trish1120 on Saturday 27 November 21 02:14 GMT (UK)
Marriage;
13 June 1856
Muiravonside House, Stirlingshire, Scotland
Willm GARDNER to Agnes STEVENSON

From this census entry;
Charlotte "N.", 11, scholar
She was bapt as Charlotte Nimmo Gardner 17 Jul 1858
(Nimmo may be a Family name further back)

She must have died before 1861 Census as they name another Daug Charlotte later.

Trish :)
Title: Re: Drapery merchant
Post by: EJF41 on Saturday 27 November 21 02:32 GMT (UK)
Thank you…
Title: Re: Drapery merchant
Post by: AllyBally21 on Tuesday 06 May 25 19:05 BST (UK)
Hello, I just wanted to say re your relative William Gardner- 1851 at Parkhead Farm, Falkirk, working for John Barclay, farmer of 50 acres, employing 1 labourer:- I also have this census as John Barclay was my relative who tenanted Parkhead farm (as his father had before him) which is in Falkirk just south of Callendar House.  Just telling you so you know where your relative was. 
Title: Re: Drapery merchant
Post by: trish1120 on Thursday 08 May 25 14:19 BST (UK)
Welcome to Rootschat AllyBally21..


How lovely of you to provide extra info.

EJF41 has not been on here since 2021 so you may not get a reply from them.

Trish :)
Title: Re: Drapery merchant
Post by: AllyBally21 on Saturday 24 May 25 18:51 BST (UK)
Thank you trish1120.  At least its there if anyone needs this information in the future.