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Title: jesse richard lee-conway and mabelagnes robertson
Post by: emanon on Friday 26 November 21 09:07 GMT (UK)
Jesse Richard Lee-Conway
Male
1880–Deceased
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Child Added
Rita Agnes Conway
Female
1918–1967
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December 12, 2020

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Vital Added

Death
Deceased
Australia
December 12, 2020

B
Vital Added

Birth
12 Jun 1880
St John, Saint John, New Brunswick, Canada

died in austrlia i do not have the date though

his wife was mabel agnes robertson

i am wondering please if anyone can help me with these 2 as i have no idea where to look or what, im a bit dim lol

they my mothers grandparents, thanks to this forum i managed to do some clicking about online, did a random click at stupid oclock oneday,

after being told all my life id never find details about her or anything just being on ehre gave me the confidence to think why not,

and amazing i got all her files to age of 2, no idea much on her heritage but i was astounded that my click got me what it did

so i have her mother and fathers names her grandparents names now im at a stump

oneday im hoping to come across info on them if im lucky or even pics be so cool

anyways so many people here who have the know how to look for things im pretty iilerate as i says not bright, so hoping please someone may help me :-)

thank you
Title: Re: jesse richard lee-conway and mabelagnes robertson
Post by: sgf28 on Friday 26 November 21 09:28 GMT (UK)
Marriage:

Adelaide Registry Office

8th August 1912

Jessie Richard Lee-Conway, age 32, single
Mabel Agnes Robertson, age 21, single. Father: Andrew Robertson
Title: Re: jesse richard lee-conway and mabelagnes robertson
Post by: sgf28 on Friday 26 November 21 09:31 GMT (UK)
Australian Imperial Force Nominal Roll 1914-1918

6926 Private Jesse Richard Lee Conway
19th Battalion
Enlisted 13th June 1917
Non effective date 10th January 1918

Returned to Australia

Occupation: painter
Religion: Roman Catholic
Next of kin: Mabel Agnes Lee-Conway
Address: Dorren, Moore Park Road, Paddington, New South Wales
Title: Re: jesse richard lee-conway and mabelagnes robertson
Post by: maddys52 on Friday 26 November 21 09:35 GMT (UK)
There isn't a photograph, but there is a description of Jesse in 1921:

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article252091458

"... 41 years of age, 5 feet 9 inches high, medium build, brown hair, blue eyes, tattooed on both arms and chest: a seaman ..."
Title: Re: jesse richard lee-conway and mabelagnes robertson
Post by: emanon on Friday 26 November 21 09:40 GMT (UK)
thanks this is awesome your so fast and i really apprceiate it, this eb my great grandfather hopefully soem stage have more but this is so cool thanks so much
Title: Re: jesse richard lee-conway and mabelagnes robertson
Post by: maddys52 on Friday 26 November 21 09:51 GMT (UK)
Actually there is a photograph of Jesse - on his US passport application (12 Jan 1921).

Not sure what information you already have about him? Born Salem, Massachusetts 12 June 1880, father also named Jesse Richard LEE-CONWAY born Salem (according to this application).

Modified to add:
though on his marriage he says his father is Richard Francis LEE CONWAY  :-\
Title: Re: jesse richard lee-conway and mabelagnes robertson
Post by: emanon on Friday 26 November 21 09:56 GMT (UK)
your amazing, all i have is what i posted,

he had a son alfred sydney heath who was me mothers father, i have no info on him either just info on me mother, which is a lot more than i had when i first posted on this forum

i love you guys just peek me up when im thinking im done
Title: Re: jesse richard lee-conway and mabelagnes robertson
Post by: mckha489 on Friday 26 November 21 10:04 GMT (UK)
Actually there is a photograph of Jesse - on his US passport application (12 Jan 1921).

Not sure what information you already have about him? Born Salem, Massachusetts 12 June 1880, father also named Jesse Richard LEE-CONWAY born Salem (according to this application).

The marriage index says his father was Richard Francis Lee-Conway  :(
Title: Re: jesse richard lee-conway and mabelagnes robertson
Post by: maddys52 on Friday 26 November 21 10:21 GMT (UK)
Yes, sorry mckha I just added that as a modification to my post too.

There is another son born Melbourne, Victoria in 1913 - Ernest Francis LEE CONWAY, parents Jesse Richard and Mabel Agnes (nee ROBERTSON) (29449 / 1913)
Title: Re: jesse richard lee-conway and mabelagnes robertson
Post by: emanon on Friday 26 November 21 10:28 GMT (UK)
Yes, sorry mckha I just added that as a modification to my post too.

There is another son born Melbourne, Victoria in 1913 - Ernest Francis LEE CONWAY, parents Jesse Richard and Mabel Agnes (nee ROBERTSON) (29449 / 1913)
would he be an uncle to me mother then ?? i have no idea does it mention rita agnes le conway ?? that was me mothers mother ??

Title: Re: jesse richard lee-conway and mabelagnes robertson
Post by: Milliepede on Friday 26 November 21 15:57 GMT (UK)
If I have read the information found correctly then yes he would be an uncle to your mother.

Quote
alfred sydney heath

Is heath one of his middle names? 
Title: Re: jesse richard lee-conway and mabelagnes robertson
Post by: mckha489 on Friday 26 November 21 19:12 GMT (UK)
Alfred Sydney HEATH was the first husband of Rita Angus LEE-CONWAY

Previous thread

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=828754.msg6930666#msg6930666
Title: Re: jesse richard lee-conway and mabelagnes robertson
Post by: mckha489 on Friday 26 November 21 19:35 GMT (UK)
Actually there is a photograph of Jesse - on his US passport application (12 Jan 1921).

Not sure what information you already have about him? Born Salem, Massachusetts 12 June 1880, father also named Jesse Richard LEE-CONWAY born Salem (according to this application).

Modified to add:
though on his marriage he says his father is Richard Francis LEE CONWAY  :-\

Page 2 of the passport application says the marriage certificate was a submitted piece of evidence, so perhaps the father’s name in the front is a clerical error?  Seems very strange.

Also. It was an emergency passport application, valid for 3 months. Yet he was in Australia in April 1921

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/51118660?searchTerm=Jesse%20Richard%20Lee-Conway
Title: Re: jesse richard lee-conway and mabelagnes robertson
Post by: mckha489 on Friday 26 November 21 19:40 GMT (UK)
Passport application says he has been a mendicant seafarer (I think that is what it says in the trapped bit on the left) from 1903

I wonder if this is him in 1906, as Jesse Conway

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/256573089?searchTerm=Jesse%20R.%20Lee-Conway

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/82465016?searchTerm=“Jesse%20Conway”
Title: Re: jesse richard lee-conway and mabelagnes robertson
Post by: mckha489 on Friday 26 November 21 19:53 GMT (UK)
Looking at his WW1 file.  

1. He had to swear allegiance to the King.  So that might be why he said he was born in Canada, as we know from later he was regarded as an Alien for being born in the USA.

Item 6 on page 1. Says He served an apprenticeship in Hartford USA …….  Can anyone figure out the last word?

https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/ViewImage.aspx?B=8203210


Added.  One of his tattoos is the “American Coat of Arms”. (Seems very odd for a Canadian!)

Added.  The WW1 Jesse is only 5 feet 6 inches.  While the alien and the passport applicant is 5 feet 9 inches. 

Added. June 2021 1921(!)-  Letter from solicitors to army asking for service record as Jesse claiming to have served 4 years. Army said it was private.  But record shows he was only away about 4 months.

Added.  His signature does look like the signature on the passport photograph.
Title: Re: jesse richard lee-conway and mabelagnes robertson
Post by: emanon on Saturday 27 November 21 00:16 GMT (UK)
interesting, hes got lots of decrepencies dodgy dude,

he didnt know me ma was a state kid till shed been one for few yrs wrote one letter far as i can tell from her files and then nothing no more interest

same with his wife,

thanks rather interesting when info comes out rahter than just names, as for his language goign to court man i bet many iof us are glad that dont happen now lol, id never be out of court
Title: Re: jesse richard lee-conway and mabelagnes robertson
Post by: emanon on Saturday 27 November 21 00:21 GMT (UK)
https://www.familysearch.org/photos/artifacts/129449831?cid=mem_copy

i do have this that saying hes an american alien and not reported to the police
Title: Re: jesse richard lee-conway and mabelagnes robertson
Post by: mckha489 on Saturday 27 November 21 01:01 GMT (UK)

he didnt know me ma was a state kid till shed been one for few yrs wrote one letter far as i can tell from her files and then nothing no more interest


Do I understand you to mean he, Jesse, wrote a letter at some point that is in the file for your mother, his grand-daughter?

What is the date of the letter?  Is there an address?
Title: Re: jesse richard lee-conway and mabelagnes robertson
Post by: emanon on Saturday 27 November 21 01:13 GMT (UK)
shes was in an prhanage i dont have it on me right now, but ill get it back, she was taken by the state at 2 and the letter was years later saying he didnt know her and her brother were in state care,

ill get her files back and look at the date
Title: Re: jesse richard lee-conway and mabelagnes robertson
Post by: maddys52 on Saturday 27 November 21 01:39 GMT (UK)
There may be another son of Jesse and Mabel LEE-CONWAY. There is a WW2 enlistment for Keith Woodrow LEE-CONWAY - born 29 Nov 1919 Newtown, next of kin - Mabel LEE-CONWAY. I can't see a NSW birth registration for him though.  :-\

There are many items in newspapers about this man on trove
https://trove.nla.gov.au
 - in trouble with the law in various States, prison escapes and recaptures etc, including this one with a photograph:
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article78280200
Title: Re: jesse richard lee-conway and mabelagnes robertson
Post by: mckha489 on Saturday 27 November 21 01:47 GMT (UK)
Here.  Different year.

LEE-CONWAY  KEITH W 40589/1918 JESSE R. MABEL A NEWTOWN

And also another daughter

LEE-CONWAY  IVY M 6101/1916 JESSE R. MABEL A GLEBE
Title: Re: jesse richard lee-conway and mabelagnes robertson
Post by: maddys52 on Saturday 27 November 21 02:13 GMT (UK)
I'm not sure if you already have this information:

Mabel LEE CONWAY died 23 April 1951 at South Yarra. Death notice here:
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article206391072

Wife of Richard (deceased), mother of Doug, Ern, Ivy (Mrs HAYES) and Keith.

Death registration 18320 / 1951 Castemaine. Unfortunately it looks like the death certificate may include many unknowns as there is no parents' names on the index.
Title: Re: jesse richard lee-conway and mabelagnes robertson
Post by: mckha489 on Saturday 27 November 21 02:22 GMT (UK)
No mention of Rita in the death notice  :-\


For more colour, 1911.  Going by Richard and known as “Yank”

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/66299487?searchTerm=“Richard%20Lee%20Conway”
Title: Re: jesse richard lee-conway and mabelagnes robertson
Post by: emanon on Saturday 27 November 21 23:32 GMT (UK)
thanks all seems he was a bit of a character, wish i had soemone and sit and just serch things so much a want to look for and no idea often how, so many people lol, but thanks everyone,

i am grateful
Title: Re: jesse richard lee-conway and mabelagnes robertson
Post by: Jodi0618 on Friday 15 April 22 12:31 BST (UK)
hi

jesse richard lee conway was my great grand father also.   his son Ernest was my grandfather.   most of this info I knew but still searching
regards  jodi
Title: Re: jesse richard lee-conway and mabelagnes robertson
Post by: StefanD99 on Friday 15 April 22 18:02 BST (UK)
I think his apprenticeship detail reads 'Hennessy 5 yrs'
Title: Re: jesse richard lee-conway and mabelagnes robertson
Post by: emanon on Friday 15 April 22 21:07 BST (UK)
hi

jesse richard lee conway was my great grand father also.   his son Ernest was my grandfather.   most of this info I knew but still searching
regards  jodi
wow interesting, do you have any info on him please from before oz and where hes from and his folks and such please, also anything other than what ive posted his daughter rita ws my grandmother i have not much info on her, ill be garteful please
Title: Re: jesse richard lee-conway and mabelagnes robertson
Post by: Jodi0618 on Saturday 16 April 22 00:38 BST (UK)
no    I have searched Salem records and Canadian  and found he was at the boer war but nothing before that.   but lets keep looking
Title: Re: jesse richard lee-conway and mabelagnes robertson
Post by: emanon on Saturday 16 April 22 04:48 BST (UK)
sounds good keep each other updated, im really not very good at things but i keep trying :-) if i find anything ill let you know, he was an illegal alien in oz says from america but then some things say canada but i thinking he was american dunno where canada coems from
Title: Re: jesse richard lee-conway and mabelagnes robertson
Post by: emanon on Saturday 16 April 22 04:52 BST (UK)
no    I have searched Salem records and Canadian  and found he was at the boer war but nothing before that.   but lets keep looking
Name  •    •
Jesse Richard Lee-Conway
Sex  •    •
Male
Birth  •    •
12 Jun 1880
St John, Saint John, New Brunswick, Canada
Christening


Richard Francis Lee-Conway fathers name this is as much as i have
Death  •    •
Deceased
Australia

i have this says canada but then other things lend to him beign american, dunno if this is any good to you, maybe be of help