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Edward James b 1751 Whitchurch herefordshire
In 1841 is living with a susan James 72
The thing about the 1841 census it doesn't tell what relationship they are to each other
Susan might be Edwards daughter or daughter in law
Anyone shed some light on this
They are living washings doward
Did Edward James marry ??
Was Susan James his daughter or daughter in law ( if daughter in law who was she married to ?? )
Thank you in advance of the reply
Best wishes Phil
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If Susanna James is 72 in 1841 then she must have been born c1769.
There is a baptism for a Susanna Davis in Hereford 1767 parents John and Mary and a marriage for and Edward James to a Susanna Davis in Whitchurch 20 June 1797
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Do you think that Edward might actually be 70 on the image in 1841 and his age has been mistranscribed :-\ The first number looks rather like the 7 in Susan's age??
Kay
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Could be a 7 instead of a 9
That would put Edward at 70 and Susan at 72
Are either or both in the 1851 census ??
In whitchurch herefordshire
Best wishes Phil
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I can't see either in 1851 - There are posssible deaths on the GRO Death Index. I can't see a death for an Edward James over 90
JAMES, SUSAN 79
GRO Ref: 1844 M Qrtr MONMOUTH Vol 26 Page 77
JAMES, EDWARD 81
GRO Ref: 1848 M Qrtr MONMOUTH Vol 26 Page 73
Kay
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09 February 1848 - Hereford Journal
Deaths - Jan. 29, aged 81, Mr. Edward James, of Whitchurch
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Hi thank you all for your replies
Best wishes
And a very merry Christmas
If I don't post again before Xmas
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Hi
A Bessie jarratt b whitchurch 1889 to a James and Elizabeth married a Walter Bartley James in Monmouth District 1913
How many children did they have
Found 1 b 1915 who also died in 1915
Trying to find if any others
Also can't find any death records for Walter Bartley James or Bessie James
She was living with her parents in the 1939 register ???
Best wishes Phil
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How about this death? It's in the right areas
Bessie James
Age: 74
Q1 1963
Ross Vol: 9a, page: 107
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I can also say that Walter signed up in December 1914 and appears to have gone through the war (with some spells in hospital). His application for a pension was rejected. Annoyinly there's no dob to hel find him in 1939. The other potentially useful info is that he and Bessie lived in Plumtree Cottage, Symonds Yat (an address also listed is Peartree Cottage - not sure if they moved from one to the other or someone got his fruits confused when doing his paperwork)
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Hi thanks for the information
Walter Bartley James died in the first World war and his buried in the Isle of Shepley, Kent
He and Bessie married in 1913 in Monmouth District and their son also Walter Bartley James was born 1915 and unfortunately died after 11 days
Best wishes Phil
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I thought you didn't have any death records for him?
Are you sure about the WWI death and burial? The pension record I found very clearly shows someone called Walter Bartley James being assessed in 1920. It sounds like the same person. His next of kin is called Bessie. His occupation is plasterer. He was living and working in Whitchurch when he enlisted and living not that far away in 1920
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Sorry I made a mistake
He had his pension turned down because he was ill a few times
Apparently he was in the Gloucestershire regiment in 1919
His regiment number is 34806
Do you know what is illness was or have any idea when he was discharged ???
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He was in hospital in Rouen for 3 days and moved on to Liverpool for 3 months starting in December 1916 but not sure why. He went back to army service in 1917 and was disembodied on 4 March 1919.
He claimed a pension stating he had pains in the back and weak eyes. The record does not note any suggestion of a connection between this claim and his spell in hospital. Condition worse than on demobilisation [I think that's what it says] Back pain was worse on exertion. Eats and sleep well.
I can't read all of the note of the medical examination, but it does note pulse 80, lungs clear, no creaking in any joints.
In summary his application for a pension was rejected as they couldn't find evidence of a condition leading to a bad back which could be attributed to his war service
(there is a fair bit of commentary about the state of his teeth and need for dentures)
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Hi nothing in the report where he went after then because Bessie in the 1939 register is with her parents ???
Best wishes Phil