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Title: Ronald Lee
Post by: Karvan on Thursday 04 November 21 18:02 GMT (UK)
I'm hoping someone can locate Ronald Lee for me.  I know he married Amy Yates on 13.10.1945 in Mansfield, Nottinghamshire. According to the marriage certificate he was 20 years old and his father was deceased and named as Albert Edward Lee - a coal miner.  Lily Lee was a witness at the marriage.
I also think I have found him on the 1939 register aged 9 DOB 11.12.28 living with his mother Annie and siblings - Dorothy, Joseph, Frank, Lillian and Ivy.  He would have died after 1928 and before 1939.
It's a mystery.
Thank you  :)
Title: Re: Ronald Lee
Post by: Pennines on Thursday 04 November 21 18:29 GMT (UK)
A Ronald Lee with the same birth date died Q/E June 2003 in Mansfield Reg District. Could be him.
Title: Re: Ronald Lee
Post by: Karvan on Thursday 04 November 21 19:06 GMT (UK)
His Granddaughter thinks he died in 2014 so I found the death for 3rd April.  Born in 1930. He was 84
I know that it doesn't follow the details in the 1939 register.  I couldn't find another Ronald Lee in the 1939 register. I ordered the marriage certificate hoping it would tell me more!
Title: Re: Ronald Lee
Post by: Pennines on Thursday 04 November 21 19:24 GMT (UK)
I am completely confused now.

So are you saying the details in your first post are all incorrect - as regards family as well as Ronald Lee's birth date please?
Title: Re: Ronald Lee
Post by: Karvan on Thursday 04 November 21 19:34 GMT (UK)
Sorry but to be honest I'm not sure.  The only certain information is the marriage on 13th Oct 1945 and his granddaughter is sure that he died in 2014.

The part where I mention a death before 1939 is for his father Alfred Edward Lee.
Title: Re: Ronald Lee
Post by: Milliepede on Thursday 04 November 21 22:20 GMT (UK)
There are other Ronald Lee deaths in 2014 but have you any idea where he may have died?  ie what part of the country?

Also you could try under different spellings if you haven't already - Leigh for example.
Title: Re: Ronald Lee
Post by: Milliepede on Thursday 04 November 21 22:30 GMT (UK)
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I also think I have found him on the 1939 register aged 9 DOB 11.12.28 living with his mother Annie and siblings - Dorothy, Joseph, Frank, Lillian and Ivy.

Lilian and Ivy have mothers maiden name Thompson
Title: Re: Ronald Lee
Post by: Milliepede on Thursday 04 November 21 22:42 GMT (UK)
Albert Lee and Lily Marriott marry in Mansfield Sep 1919 and they appear to have a son Ronald born 1925. 

Just thinking of the Lily and Lillian names but you said mother was Annie so this may be wrong family  :-\
Title: Re: Ronald Lee
Post by: Milliepede on Thursday 04 November 21 22:57 GMT (UK)
Ok to fit with the family you found we have this birth registered Mar 1929 which would fit a 11/12/28 birth.

Ronald Lee mothers name Thompson in Mansfield

but not finding parents marriage as yet.

Title: Re: Ronald Lee
Post by: amondg on Friday 05 November 21 03:56 GMT (UK)
The 1939 entry DOB of 1928 would make him 17 not 20 when he married 1945.

Lily who witness the marriage could his mother  (found by Millipede) who had a son 1925
Title: Re: Ronald Lee
Post by: amondg on Friday 05 November 21 04:21 GMT (UK)
Can anyone in the family remember any great aunts and uncles such as Iris, Lucy, Florence, Raymond, George or Albert Frederick.

All have mothers maiden name Marriott and are siblings to Ronald born 1925 
Title: Re: Ronald Lee
Post by: Pennines on Friday 05 November 21 18:27 GMT (UK)
His Granddaughter thinks he died in 2014 so I found the death for 3rd April.  Born in 1930. He was 84
I know that it doesn't follow the details in the 1939 register.  I couldn't find another Ronald Lee in the 1939 register. I ordered the marriage certificate hoping it would tell me more!

Karvan - if he was born in 1930 - he would only be about 15 when he married in 1945. Something is amiss somewhere.
Title: Re: Ronald Lee
Post by: Karvan on Friday 05 November 21 19:14 GMT (UK)
There are other Ronald Lee deaths in 2014 but have you any idea where he may have died?  ie what part of the country?

Also you could try under different spellings if you haven't already - Leigh for example.

I think it was Leicester was where he was living.
Title: Re: Ronald Lee
Post by: Karvan on Friday 05 November 21 19:15 GMT (UK)
His Granddaughter thinks he died in 2014 so I found the death for 3rd April.  Born in 1930. He was 84
I know that it doesn't follow the details in the 1939 register.  I couldn't find another Ronald Lee in the 1939 register. I ordered the marriage certificate hoping it would tell me more!

Karvan - if he was born in 1930 - he would only be about 15 when he married in 1945. Something is amiss somewhere.

I agree.  I now have the marriage certificate so know he was 20
Title: Re: Ronald Lee
Post by: Karvan on Friday 05 November 21 19:17 GMT (UK)
A Ronald Lee with the same birth date died Q/E June 2003 in Mansfield Reg District. Could be him.

His granddaughter felt sure he died in 2014
Title: Re: Ronald Lee
Post by: Karvan on Friday 05 November 21 19:18 GMT (UK)
Can anyone in the family remember any great aunts and uncles such as Iris, Lucy, Florence, Raymond, George or Albert Frederick.

All have mothers maiden name Marriott and are siblings to Ronald born 1925

I'll have to do some more asking!
Title: Re: Ronald Lee
Post by: Karvan on Friday 05 November 21 19:22 GMT (UK)
Albert Lee and Lily Marriott marry in Mansfield Sep 1919 and they appear to have a son Ronald born 1925. 

Just thinking of the Lily and Lillian names but you said mother was Annie so this may be wrong family  :-\

Thanks. This looks promising.  I don't know if his mother was Annie - I was just going by the names in the 1939 register that I found. Lily could be his mother on the certificate as a witness.
Title: Re: Ronald Lee
Post by: Annette7 on Friday 05 November 21 20:57 GMT (UK)
After studying this family I wondered why he would have died in Leicestershire when family seemed to remain in Mansfield? (Plus there are 2 deaths in 2014 Leicestershire - one bc.1929 and one bc.1934 - both of which are too young!)

Ronald's wife Amy Yates is said to have been born 22/8/1927 and died May 1991 Mansfield (tree on Ancestry).

Don't believe that Ronald himself is shown on 1939 - and probably a redacted entry.   Index shows an entry for his father Albert E., plus some of his known siblings - no Lily shown with the family but she was possibly the one shown as a 'patient' elsewhere.   

I agree that his parents were Albert Edward Lee and Lily Marriott who married 1919 Mansfield.

Albert died Mar.qtr.1942 Mansfield.   At this point, not sure when Lily died.

Ronald Lee's birth entry was in Mar.qtr.1925 so could be a late 1924 birth or early 1925.   Think that  he's the Ronald Lee b.28/12/1924, who died July 2004 Mansfield (and not in 2014).

To proceed with certainty I think you need to get the birth certificate of Robert Lee Mar.qtr.1925 Mansfield, mmn Marriott, to confirm his birthdate and thus identify the correct death entry.

Annette
Title: Re: Ronald Lee
Post by: Karvan on Friday 05 November 21 21:35 GMT (UK)
After studying this family I wondered why he would have died in Leicestershire when family seemed to remain in Mansfield? (Plus there are 2 deaths in 2014 Leicestershire - one bc.1929 and one bc.1934 - both of which are too young!)

Ronald's wife Amy Yates is said to have been born 22/8/1927 and died May 1991 Mansfield (tree on Ancestry).

Don't believe that Ronald himself is shown on 1939 - and probably a redacted entry.   Index shows an entry for his father Albert E., plus some of his known siblings - no Lily shown with the family but she was possibly the one shown as a 'patient' elsewhere.   

I agree that his parents were Albert Edward Lee and Lily Marriott who married 1919 Mansfield.

Albert died Mar.qtr.1942 Mansfield.   At this point, not sure when Lily died.

Ronald Lee's birth entry was in Mar.qtr.1925 so could be a late 1924 birth or early 1925.   Think that  he's the Ronald Lee b.28/12/1924, who died July 2004 Mansfield (and not in 2014).

To proceed with certainty I think you need to get the birth certificate of Robert Lee Mar.qtr.1925 Mansfield, mmn Marriott, to confirm his birthdate and thus identify the correct death entry.

Annette

Thank you Annette for this. It certainly makes sense.  I think you mean Ronald Lee and not Robert. I'll speak to his granddaughter again and see what she says regarding the death dates!  I'll order a birth certificate.