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Mary Ann Winter, one of my Great-great grandmothers, is proving a dead end for me before her marriage! I wonder if anyone has any ideas/info on what to try next to unlock beyond her?!?
Details so far:
Mary Ann Winter married Thomas Henry Barnett 22-12-1872 in Hackney, fathers name given as Joseph Winter (coke dealer).
Census returns 1881, 91, 1901, 11 give an estimated birth year of 1854 and all give Windsor, Berkshire as birthplace.
Earlier censuses don’t seem to produce any good matches in the right area, there’s a couple of births registered fairly near to Windsor in roughly the right time but further research suggests these are not ‘my’ Mary…
All suggestions gratefully received!
(I have one photo of her, attached - no one now seems to know when or where it was taken)
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Are these two of her children? :-\
BARNETT, THOMAS EDWARD
Mother's Maiden Surname: SLADE
GRO Reference: 1876 M Quarter in ISLINGTON Volume 01B Page 252
BARNETT, GEORGE HENRY
Mother's Maiden Surname: SLADE
GRO Reference: 1877 J Quarter in ISLINGTON Volume 01B Page 204
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Islington 1871
piece 293 folio 91 page 53
Balls Pond Road
Mary A Slade, 18, Domestic Servant, born Berks Windsor
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I wonder if this is Mary, sadly no mothers maiden name on GRO
Eton is situated on the north bank of the Thames, and is connected with Windsor by a bridge across that river
WINTER, MARY ANN SLADE -
GRO Reference: 1854 J Quarter in ETON BUCKS Volume 03A Page 370
Colin
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1861
Islington
piece 142 folio 94 page 29
Joseph Slade 26 Labourer
Fanny Slade 26
Mary Ann Slade 7 Stow? Berkshire
Joseph Slade 5 Windsor Berkshire
Elizabeth Slade 3
Harriett Slade 2 months
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Joseph the younger?
SLADE, JOSEPH
Mother's Maiden Surname: WINTER
GRO Reference: 1856 M Quarter in WINDSOR Volume 02C Page 391
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This may be Mary in 1861, all children registered ETON.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7JY-JYV
Colin
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The marriage witnesses are Joseph and Elizabeth Winter (both made their mark).
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SLADE, ELIZABETH
Mother's Maiden Surname: WINTER
GRO Reference: 1858 M Quarter in FARNHAM Volume 02A Page 68
In the 1861 census in Islington, 3 year old Elizabeth Slade was born Aldershot.
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BARNETT, THOMAS EDWARD
Mother's Maiden Surname: SLADE
GRO Reference: 1876 M Quarter in ISLINGTON Volume 01B Page 252
Baptism at St Mary Islington, 2 January 1876
Thomas Edward
Son of Thomas + Mary Ann Barnett
Havelock St
Father a Slaughterman
born 13 Dec 1875
Baptized with sister Elizabeth (next entry)
born 11 Dec 1874 ?
Probably 1873 anyway
BARNETT, ELIZA ELIZABETH
Mother's Maiden Surname: WINTER
GRO Reference: 1874 M Quarter in ISLINGTON Volume 01B Page 225
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BARNETT, GEORGE HENRY
Mother's Maiden Surname: SLADE
GRO Reference: 1877 J Quarter in ISLINGTON Volume 01B Page 204
Baptism at St Mary Islington, 25 March 1877
George Henry
Son of Thomas Henry + Mary Ann Barnet
Havelock St
Father a Slaughterer
born 25 Feb 1877
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Possible baptism to go with the birth reg noted earlier?
3 January 1855, Upton cum Chalvey, Buckinghamshire
Mary Ann Winter
Mother Fanny Winter
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J3FT-5S8
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Potentially Fanny Winter in 1841 (location is same as Mary Ann Winter's baptism as noted by jonw65)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7QG-6ZJ
Frances Winter baptised Upton cum Chalvey, Bucks to Edward and Mary Winter. Edward's profession is given as a groom.
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Thanks all, greatly appreciated.
Yes, Thomas and Henry were the eldest of her six sons.
Looks like Slade is the key, now will need to unpick the changing use of surname! Lots to do… :)
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What became of the family after 1861 census in Islington? Can't seem to find them.
Can't find marriage between Joseph Slade and Fanny/Frances Winter either so perhaps never married.
Annette
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What became of the family after 1861 census in Islington? Can't seem to find them.
Can't find marriage between Joseph Slade and Fanny/Frances Winter either so perhaps never married.
Annette
Yes, I can’t see any record of a Slade-Winter marriage either, and no luck as yet finding Mary’s parents/siblings in 1871, haven’t gone further than that yet. I thinks it’s going to be a tricky puzzle still