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Title: Catherine, wife of Jonah Grigg, of Hawkshead
Post by: Northern Gen on Wednesday 27 October 21 17:08 BST (UK)
Hi,

I'm struggling to find a death for Catherine Grigg (sometimes sp Gregg) née Dixon, b.1777 in Torver.

She married Jonah Grigg in Torver on 19 January 1797. They had 2 children, Jane b.1798 and Dixon (1802-1805). Jonah marries for a second time on 8 August 1826 in Hawkshead, where he marries Hannah Creighton and states he is a widower. Despite this I can't find a death for Catherine.

If anyone can help that would be much appreciated.
Title: Re: Catherine, wife of Jonah Grigg, of Hawkshead
Post by: bethanyyd96 on Wednesday 27 October 21 19:18 BST (UK)
I'm still looking for the burial of Catherine, but I found the marriage and burial for her daughter Jane if you haven't already got the info (from lan-opc)

She married George Fleming in Hawkshead 1815, one of the witnesses was Ann Dixon (a relation?)

Jane Fleming age 73 abode Yewdale Bridge Coniston, buried 26 Jan 1871 St Andrew Coniston
Title: Re: Catherine, wife of Jonah Grigg, of Hawkshead
Post by: Northern Gen on Friday 29 October 21 12:28 BST (UK)
Hi bethanyyd96, thanks for the reply.

I'm really confused as to why there doesn't seem to be a death/burial mentioned anywhere. I've looked through the newspaper archives and there's nothing there either. Quite odd given that Jonah was a schoolmaster when they married which I would assume was quite a prominent position  in that area at the time.

Have you got the information for Jonah and Catherine's son? I have that if it's of any interest to you?
Title: Re: Catherine, wife of Jonah Grigg, of Hawkshead
Post by: bethanyyd96 on Friday 29 October 21 12:53 BST (UK)
Still no sign of Catherine as of yet.

Though I have come across a newspaper clipping detailing the death of Jonah Gregg, who died on 13th Oct 1852 at his son in law, George Fleming's house (published in the Kendal Mercury)
Title: Re: Catherine, wife of Jonah Grigg, of Hawkshead
Post by: garstonite on Friday 29 October 21 13:41 BST (UK)
I don't know whether the villages of Torver - or Hoathwaite are relevant ?   church location and abode at the time of Dixons death ??

Burial: 17 Jan 1805 St Luke, Torver, Lancashire, England
Dixon Grigg - son of Jonah Grigg & Catherine
    Abode: Hoathwaite
    Register: Burials 1691 - 1821
Title: Re: Catherine, wife of Jonah Grigg, of Hawkshead
Post by: garstonite on Friday 29 October 21 13:47 BST (UK)
I presume you have these details - posting just in case - for other readers
...............................................
Marriage: 19 Jan 1797 St Luke, Torver, Lancashire, England
Jonah Grigg - Schoolmaster, this Parish
Catharine Dixon - Spinster, this Parish
    Married by Licence
    Register: Marriages 1692 - 1821
    Source: LDS Film 1040313
.................................................................................................
Marriage: 8 Aug 1826 St Michael and All Angels, Hawkshead, Lancashire, England
Jonah Grigg - Widower, the parish of Hawkshead
Hannah Creighton - Spinster, the parish of Hawkshead
    Witness: Jane Satterthwaite; Richd. Jackson; Saml. Green
    Married by Licence by: Geo. Park, Minister
.......................................................
Burial: 28 Dec 1843 St Michael and All Angels, Hawkshead, Lancashire, England
Hannah Grigg -
    Age: 63
    Abode: Hollin Bank
    Buried by: Geo: Park, Incumbent
..................................................................
Burial: 17 Oct 1852 St Michael and All Angels, Hawkshead, Lancashire, England
Jonah Grigg -
    Age: 83
    Abode: Udale Bridge, Monk Coniston
    Buried by: Geo: Park, Incumbent
...................................................................
it just seems wrong that Catherines burial doesn't show at Hawkshead ...are there any St Michael and All Angels records missing for a period ..ie - 1810-1820.??
Title: Re: Catherine, wife of Jonah Grigg, of Hawkshead
Post by: Northern Gen on Friday 29 October 21 16:48 BST (UK)
Thanks for posting that garstonite. I agree it's really strange that there's no sign of a burial record for Catherine. I've even tried looking for her under her maiden name but no luck so far.

Title: Re: Catherine, wife of Jonah Grigg, of Hawkshead
Post by: garstonite on Friday 29 October 21 17:08 BST (UK)
Do you think it is possible that Jonah went to be a temporary Headmaster - or to another school out of Lancashire for a period of time ???  and Catherine died out of the County ??
Title: Re: Catherine, wife of Jonah Grigg, of Hawkshead
Post by: Northern Gen on Friday 29 October 21 17:29 BST (UK)
It's a possibility, although the National Archives and Cumbria archives have documents relating to Jonas Grigg of Torver (I'm assuming it's the same person, just a different spelling) being sued for trespass and assault by James Sanders in the 1810s.
Title: Re: Catherine, wife of Jonah Grigg, of Hawkshead
Post by: garstonite on Friday 29 October 21 17:33 BST (UK)
anything saying Catherine was also an attacker ??   it is over the top - but could she have been sent to Australia as a convict ??   any way of checking 1810's records for Convict ships ?
Title: Re: Catherine, wife of Jonah Grigg, of Hawkshead
Post by: garstonite on Friday 29 October 21 17:45 BST (UK)
just checked all 4 ships from 1810
 - NO Catherine Grigg  :)
Title: Re: Catherine, wife of Jonah Grigg, of Hawkshead
Post by: Northern Gen on Sunday 31 October 21 17:22 GMT (UK)
Thanks for looking into that garstonite. At least if Catherine had been the one causing the trouble there might be some mention of her!

It looks like the legal case ran from 1812 until at least 1813 (if not up to 1816) but seems to be between James Sanders and Jonah/Jonas Grigg.
Title: Re: Catherine, wife of Jonah Grigg, of Hawkshead
Post by: Radcliff on Monday 29 November 21 20:51 GMT (UK)
 Jonah remarried as a widower aged 50
abode Rowlandson Ground Hawkshead
bride
Hannah Creighton aged 40
spinster
marriage Hawkshead 3/08/1826
have you accessed these documents