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Hi
I posted a few years ago about the elusive William Isaac Locker and I have still had no luck finding any info on him before his marriage to Mary Simpson (1886, Kirkdale Liverpool).
From censuses & marriage record I know he was born around 1860-1865 in Gorton, Manchester. His marriage certificate suggests his dad is 'William Locker'. At some point he moved to Liverpool where he married and had several children.
Any help at all much appreciated!
Thanks
H
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I guess you've checked for a birth registration for him?
What was his occupation on the marriage please.
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Previous threads:
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=718394
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=619076
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If this is his death it would suggest he was born 1861 but no GRO registration.
LOCKER, WILLIAM ISAAC 76
GRO Reference: 1937 M Quarter in LIVERPOOL NORTH Volume 08B Page 445
Colin
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My money's still on William Isaac Edge born Chorlton RD (which would be right for Gorton) in 1860. Mmn Cook per GRO. More research required...
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Thanks all - yep I'll look into the William Isaac Edge line of enquiry.
And also correct is the death 1937 putting his DOB c.1861
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Eliza D Barlow/ Edge married Benjamin Locker in 1869 at St Andrews Church Ancoats
Any connection?
Eliza D Barlow married Thomas Edge in 1863 at St Thomas Ardwick.
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My money's still on William Isaac Edge born Chorlton RD (which would be right for Gorton) in 1860. Mmn Cook per GRO. More research required...
Possible
1861, Chorlton upon Medlock
piece 2881 folio 19 page 31
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M78V-S5J
John Knight Head 42 Manager Railway Contractor, born Yorkshire
Martha Knight Wife 27 Shropshire Ellsmere (Ellesmere)
Louisa Knight Daur 3 Manchester
Edward Knight Son 1 Ashton under Lyne
Mary A Edge Visitor Married 29 Shropshire Ellsmere
William Edge Visitor 10 mo Manchester
Birth
KNIGHT, LOUISA
Mother's Maiden Surname: COOK
GRO Reference: 1857 D Quarter in CHORLTON Volume 08C Page 573
Marriage, 26 Oct 1856, Manchester St George
John Knight, Bachelor, Contractor
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Martha Cooke, Spinster, father William Cooke, Confectioner
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-61X3-C96
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Possible marriage?
4 March 1866, Manchester St John
James Higham
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Mary Ann Cooke, 29, Spinster, father William Cooke, Baker
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6GPP-RD
1871 in Altrincham, Cheshire
Piece 3682 folio 11 page 16
James Higham Head 25 Coachman
Mary A Higham Wife 35, born Shropshire (Ellesmere??)
William Cook Son 11 Lancashire ?
Henry Higham Son 4
Walter Higham Son 3
Mary E Higham Daur 9 months
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The Highams are still in Altrincham in 1881.
William is now recorded as Higham.
William Higham Son 20 Whitesmith, born Manchester
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q272-DWC6
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What do you know about the family of Mary SIMPSON, married William Isaac LOCKER, 1886, Lancashire?
What names do you have for her parents?
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Census England 1891
at 34 Easby Rd Kirkdale Lancashire
LOCKER William I head 30y labourer b. Gorton Lancashire
LOCKER Mary S 24y b. Liverpool Lancashire
LOCKER Mary 3y b. Liverpool Lancashire
LOCKER Georgena 1y b. Liverpool Lancashire
MATHERS James 47y wid. boarder baker b. Scotland
MATHERS John 14y son scholar b. Lancashire
MATHERS James 8y son scholar b. Lancashire
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MITCHELL William head 42y gen. lab. b. Lancashire
MITCHELL Elizabeth 35y b. Lancashire
MITCHELL William E 10y son b. Lancashire
Census 1901 at 121 Latimer St Liverpool
LOCKER William 36y lab. ship yard b. Liverpool Lancashire
LOCKER Mary 32y b. Liverpool Lancashire
LOCKER Georgina 12y b. Liverpool Lancashire
LOCKER Elizabeth 9y b. Liverpool Lancashire
LOCKER Maria 6y b. Liverpool Lancashire
LOCKER Eleanor 4y b. Liverpool Lancashire
LOCKER Jessie 6m b. Liverpool Lancashire
FLOOD Mary 64y M.I.L wid. b. Scotland
NAYLOR Edward J 29y single boarder lab. ship yards b. Liverpool Lancashire
Census England 1911 at 17 Vesuvius St Kirkdale Lancashire
LOCKER William I 46y dock lab. b. Manchester Lancashire
LOCKER Mary 42y b. Liverpool Lancashire
LOCKER Eleanor 14y b. Liverpool Lancashire
LOCKER Jessie 11y school b. Liverpool Lancashire
LOCKER William S 9y school b. Liverpool Lancashire
LOCKER Lillian 6y school b. Liverpool Lancashire
LOCKER Margaret 4y b. Liverpool Lancashire
LOCKER Albert 2y b. Liverpool Lancashire
(Mary LOCKER married 24 years, 6 children born, 6 children living)
Census England 1911 at 1 Back Summer Gardens Kirkdale Lancashire
MITCHELL William 61y labourers fitter b. Liverpool Lancashire
MITCHELL Elizabeth 54y washerwoman b. Liverpool Lancashire
LOCKER Elizabeth 18y niece b. Liverpool Lancashire
CALLAGHAN John 3y foster son b. Liverpool Lancashire.
(Elizabeth MITCHELL married 32 years, 2 children, 1 child living, 1 child deceased)
for John (BUCKLEY?)......crossed out to then be CALLAGHAN.
Who are the MITCHELLS...William and Elizabeth?. How is Eleanor LOCKER a niece to either of them, and the MITCHELLS are living with the LOCKERs at 1891?
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Who are the MITCHELLS...William and Elizabeth?
29 June 1879, St Michael, Toxteth Park
William Mitchell, 28, Mariner, father John Mitchell, Rigger
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Elizabeth Mundle, 23, father Edward Mundle, Carpenter
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9Q6-VWD9
Birth reg
MITCHELL, EDWARD WILLIAM
Mother's Maiden Surname: MUNDLE
GRO Reference: 1880 J Quarter in WEST DERBY & TOXTETH PARK Volume 08B Page 267
1901, Kirkdale
William Mitchell Head 52 Dock Labourer
Elizabeth Mitchell Wife 45
Edward W Mitchell Son 20 Dock Labourer
All born Toxteth Park L'pool
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9GL-1W4
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Census England 1881 at 27 Sessions Rd Kirkdale
NAYLOR Jessie 40y marr. head dressmaker b. Liverpool Lancashire
NAYLOR William 14y railway clerk b. Liverpool Lancashire
NAYLOR Edward J 12y bread shop boy b. Liverpool Lancashire
NAYLOR Alfred I 9y b. Liverpool Lancashire
NAYLOR Frank G 4y b. Liverpool Lancashire
NAYLOR Thomas 3y b. Liverpool Lancashire
NAYLOR Richard 3m b. Liverpool Lancashire
MITCHELL Elizabeth 25y marr. b. Liverpool Lancashire
MITCHELL Edward W 11m son b. Liverpool Lancashire
I think this is Elizabeth nee MUNDLE.
At Census 1901, 121 Latimer St Liverpool with LOCKER family is Edward J NAYLOR.
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NAYLOR, RICHARD
Mother's Maiden Surname: MUNDEL
GRO Reference: 1881 M Quarter in WEST DERBY Volume 08B Page 433
NAYLOR, THOMAS
Mother's Maiden Surname: MUNDLE
GRO Reference: 1877 D Quarter in WEST DERBY AND TOXTETH PARK Volume 08B Page 414
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30 August 1863, Liverpool St John
William Naylor, 24, Seaman, father James Naylor, Cutter?
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Jessie Mundle, 24, father Edward Mundle, Shipwright
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-896J-W2X4
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Census England 1911 at 17 Vesuvius St Kirkdale Lancashire
Mary LOCKER married 24 years, 6 children born, 6 children living
They must have only counted the six children living at home in 1911.
Or forgotten the earlier ones!
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I tried to work out the Mitchell link and the naylor link as a Naylor lives with the family for several years but not much luck…
William’s wife Mary Simpson’s were from Scotland - Mary nee Miller & George Simpson
Thank you all for you help/suggestions
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Oh and to mention there was a rumour he had a sister called Maria…