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Title: George Cruickshank(s)
Post by: Lonscot on Thursday 14 October 21 21:08 BST (UK)
I'm trying to trace any living relatives of George Cruickshank(s) who lived in Kessock Court North, Inverness. He was married to Mary Ann McDonald who was originally from Tomintoul. She died in Inverness in 1982.  By this time George had died, as she was noted as a Widow in her death certificate. However there's no trace of George's death in the Register!  Mary Ann had a son but he died with no heirs, and I don't believe George had heirs; but he may have had siblings?? However there isn't a record of his birth; perhaps that would be the case if he had been adopted??
George was a Private in the Seaforth Highlanders when he got married in 1940, at which point he was living in Crown Drive Inverness. On the death certificate for Mary Ann George was noted as a 'fisherman'.  Seems a real dead end.....
Title: Re: George Cruickshank(s)
Post by: MonicaL on Thursday 14 October 21 21:26 BST (UK)
Hi Lonscot

What names did George give for his parents when he married in 1940? What was his age at marriage?  What were the names of the witnesses to the marriage?

Questions, questions  ::)

Monica
Title: Re: George Cruickshank(s)
Post by: MonicaL on Thursday 14 October 21 21:31 BST (UK)
What year was their son born? Did he marry? If so, maybe his marriage registration would give you further details regarding his father George and help you narrow down his death dates depending on whether he showed as alive or deceased when son married. Of course, son may not have married.

Is this Mary Ann's death entry:

Mary Ann Cruickshank or McDonald. Death in Inverness in 1982. She was 78 when she died, mother's maiden name Grant. So Mary Ann born c. 1904?

Monica
Title: Re: George Cruickshank(s)
Post by: Lonscot on Saturday 16 October 21 22:50 BST (UK)
Hi MonicaL

Thanks for posting! George's son did marry but it was late in life and they had no children.  It may as you say be an idea to get hold of the marriage certificate in any case re-his father (well really his step father).
Yes you have the right Mary Ann - born in 1903.

As for George Cruickshanks: married 21 Dec 1940, age 33 in a Methodist church. Parents given as John Cruickshanks and Christina: ms Stephen. Witnesses were Edward Chisolm of Glenurquhart Rd, Inverness and Norah H Chisolm, Dunolly, Clashnacarry
Title: Re: George Cruickshank(s)
Post by: MonicaL on Saturday 16 October 21 23:03 BST (UK)
With those names for George's parents, there is this possible marriage for them:

JOHN LEGGE CRUICKSHANK and CHRISTINA STEWART STEVENSON
1907
147/A 5
Banff

With a birth year of 33 at the time of his marriage, George could have been first born?

Monica
Title: Re: George Cruickshank(s)
Post by: MonicaL on Saturday 16 October 21 23:04 BST (UK)
Possible birth for him?:

GEORGE STEVENSON CRUICKSHANK
1908
147/A 107
Banff

Monica
Title: Re: George Cruickshank(s)
Post by: MonicaL on Saturday 16 October 21 23:13 BST (UK)
There are a few births for possible siblings for George (assuming we have the right family for him  ::)). For example, there is also this death:

JOHN LEGGE CRUICKSHANK
Age 76
Mother's maiden name STEVENSON
1987
293/ 55
Banff

Monica
Title: Re: George Cruickshank(s)
Post by: MonicaL on Saturday 16 October 21 23:19 BST (UK)
What was father John's occupation from the 1940 marriage? You could try checking the 1911 census and the valuation rolls for more details.

Playing around with just the index on www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk this may be the family in 1911 in Banff, Banffshire. You would need to check the original image for this entry to confirm further:

John 27
Christina 57
Barbara 6
George 2
John 0

Monica
Title: Re: George Cruickshank(s)
Post by: MonicaL on Saturday 16 October 21 23:32 BST (UK)
The middle surname of LEGGE may not be completed and have been cut off on the index. I think this may be John, father's death:

JOHN LEGGED CRUICKSHANK
Age 80
1964
153/ 24
Fordyce

And mother's details:

CHRISTINA STEWA(art) CRUICKSHANK
Age 79
1961
147/A 77
Banff

Monica
Title: Re: George Cruickshank(s)
Post by: MonicaL on Saturday 16 October 21 23:40 BST (UK)
Christina seems to have come from a big family. There are a number of family trees on Ancestry for her line. Some of these are really well researched and include photos and documents on the family in general. I don't know if you have a subs to A/try or can access but this, for example, is one of the trees I can see www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/person/tree/13082925/person/12250160190/facts

Monica
Title: Re: George Cruickshank(s)
Post by: Lonscot on Monday 18 October 21 14:12 BST (UK)
Heavens Monica, you're a real miner of information.  I wish I had a little more time.  Anyway just to say I'll see about Christina and her line.

John's occupation from the 1940 marriage was Foreman, Manure Works......!!
You mentioned in Christina's Ancestry listing has photos, which I'll see about accessing as I used to have a sub on Ancestry, but this current line is a new idea of mine.  You couldn't let me know if the lady George Cruickshank married in 1940, Mary Ann Cruickshank nee McDonald, daughter of John McDonald (Stone Mason) and Margaret McDonald nee Grant, has a photo of her could you??
Golly - you're good at this.  When I have a little time I'll have a look at the other things you've found out.
Many thanks
Jon
Title: Re: George Cruickshank(s)
Post by: MonicaL on Monday 18 October 21 19:38 BST (UK)
Can't see any reference to a photo for Mary Ann unfortunately so far.

There is a bit on her parents around such a family tree here www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/person/tree/37728761/person/20379422702/facts A quick access tree here www.ancestry.co.uk/genealogy/records/maggie-jane-grant-24-14vbczf?geo_a=r&geo_s=au&geo_t=uk&geo_v=2.0.0&o_iid=41020&o_lid=41020&o_sch=Web+Property

Maggie Jane Grant and John McDonald married in 1901 in Kirkmichael, Banff. Possible birth entry for Mary Ann McDonald in 1903 in Kirkmichael, Banff.

Monica
Title: Re: George Cruickshank(s)
Post by: Lonscot on Monday 18 October 21 21:26 BST (UK)
Thanks for the links - re-registered on Ancestry and have printed off to have a look later.
To confirm Mary Ann was born in Kirkmichael on 1st July 1903. She appears in the 1911 census, having moved with the rest of the family to Abernethy.
The information on George's possible birth date and his parents' marriage are quite probable too.
As George was a Private in the Seaforth Highlanders at the age of 33 (and engaged in 1940 in War Service) it may be that there are Records held somewhere on the Highlanders that may have further information but could be a dead end?
Title: Re: George Cruickshank(s)
Post by: MonicaL on Monday 18 October 21 21:44 BST (UK)
What year was their son born?

Monica
Title: Re: George Cruickshank(s)
Post by: MonicaL on Monday 18 October 21 21:46 BST (UK)
You are interested in confirming George's death. Could he have died in WW2 action (although not seeing anything to support that on www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/ ? What are the last details you have for him?

Monica
Title: Re: George Cruickshank(s)
Post by: Forfarian on Monday 18 October 21 22:38 BST (UK)
To confirm Mary Ann was born in Kirkmichael on 1st July 1903. She appears in the 1911 census, having moved with the rest of the family to Abernethy.
There are four parishes called Kirkmichael and two Abernethys, so you need to be sure to note which county as well as which parish you are in :)
Title: Re: George Cruickshank(s)
Post by: Lonscot on Wednesday 20 October 21 20:55 BST (UK)
Hi MonicaL

On George; the last I have is his marriage on 21 December 1940 to Mary Ann McDonald. He was 33 and Mary Ann was 37.
Their son John - in fact Mary's son (George was a stepfather) John (McDonald) was born as far as I can make out on 14 September 1922. 
Mary Ann died: 9 April 1982, Culduthel Hospital Inverness, aged 78.
George was born in 1907 but I can't find any death...